Tom: First, I have weighed and measured Mormonism. I have asked what history and logic have to say about big questions like truth and falsity of Mormonism, what is Mormon theology, and what is a prophet. From this perspective it would be inaccurate to say that I think “old lds prophets words mean nothing next to the new prophet.” I place great value upon the thoughts and ideas of old LDS leaders especially Joseph Smith. Blake Ostler’s book series Exploring Mormon Thought IMO does a fabulous job of emphasizing the importance of LDS leaders in the production of a coherent LDS theology. That being said, Ostler’s book and my posts are attempts at analytical presentations of the religion and …
Funny…you have rejected most of what we have posted that your old “prophets” have stated. I get why you do that, but still…
Tom: Second, there is a part of me that I do not frequently share on this board. This me sat in sacrament meeting today and listened to the lady speak about her struggles, fears, and doubts. This me taught about the atonement and the “Lord’s supper,” and how this impacts me and my walk with Christ, my walk with my family, and my walk through life. As I quoted President Joseph Fielding Smith, there was no “weighing and measuring” as analyst are wont to do. This is a huge part of me that does not appear often in the pages of Catholic Answers.
I have heard similar stories in real churches of every denomination. And I have sat thru the board-meeting like Sac Meeting many, many, many times. That proves nothing.
Tom: Next, as one responsible for about 3-5% of the posts on Mormonism you have read here, I am responding most often to the posts of those who spend 90% of their Mormon related time criticizing my faith.
It is sad when speaking the truth is reduced to “criticizing”. How sad to belong to a church where truth is considered criticizing.
While I reject the views of Joseph Smith on geography
Ok…“prophet” number 1 rejected…
and Brigham Young on Adam-God,
And now prophet number 2 rejected…
it would be inaccurate to say that I reject the bulk of the legacy left by these two men who I respect. The bulk of the posters here are trying to make Mormonism seem ridiculous and ugly, and … in response to this I reply that what they offer is not Mormonism. They then quote volumes of **** collected over the last 150 years by critics of my church. It is ****, not because old LDS leaders said it, but because it is chosen for its anti-Mormon impact.
Wrong. We quote your leaders to show they are NOT prophets. And I love it that you reject what they have taught. If they were false on some things, they are false prophets…something to which you have now accepted. You cannot be sorta pregnant…and you cannot be an off-again on-again prophet
These are the posts written by disaffected ex-Mormons or by people who never have been Mormon but who have made their mark on the internet by pushing unadorned bigotry-from which anti-Mormons get their juiciest information.
And now you judge? Wrong. I feel sad for you that the truth is “unadirned bigotry”. I haver done nothing but post truth. I have done nothing but post direct quotes. I have done nothing but post actual LDS doctrine.
Relying on them for the straight story on the CoJCoLDS is like relying on a political candidate to tell you all the good points about his opponent.
Wrong again. Relying on us is like relying on someone who drove a Ford for many years for many years to tell you the truth about driving a Ford.
Now it may well be that a man leaving one religion for another can write fairly, without bitterness, about the one he left behind. But it stands to reason that most people who suddenly think they have an urge to write about their change of beliefs just want to vent their frustrations or justify their actions.
Nope. I left in 1989. I have no frustrations. I simply am here to inform people about the truth.