Jesus 'Rebukes the Sea' - Johah thrown overboard


#1

I was talking to somebody earlier who claims the likeness of Mark’s telling of Jesus rebuking the wind on the sea of Galilee is far too similar to Johnah’s story from the OT. Therefore he claims Mark ‘obviously’ copied the OT story for his own account of Jesus.

I know this can’t be true, however what is the official line on this?


#2

Much of the New Testament has a basis in the Old Testament. The plan which lay hidden in the Old Testament was fully revealed in the New Testament.

As an example, 3000 were lost at Mt. Sinai in the OT while 3000 were added at Pentecost in the NT. This does not mean that Luke copied the Book of Exodus when he wrote Acts of the Apostles.

*For he commanded, and raised the stormy wind,
which lifted up the waves of the sea.

Psalm 107:25)

And they were filled with awe, and said to one another, “Who then is this, that even wind and sea obey him?” (Mark 4:41)*

Mark was bringing the words of the Psalm to his audience and thereby proving to the reader that Jesus was God. It isn’t copying. Remember that God inspired the writers.

-Tim-


#3

God is showing us that the Old Testament was His blueprint for.the fulfillment of Jesus in the New Testament,

All the old Testament prefigures and points to Jesus,

The sacrificing of animals in the Temple, the Paschal Lamb on the feast of the Passover, Jesus death on the Cross.as the Lamb of God, the Jews being brought out of slavery from Egypt, Jesus freeing us from sin,
King David’s line being established, with Jesus as it’s Eternal Heir and our Everlasting King,

Everything in the Old Testament mirrors as a shadow, what God wanted to fulfill in the New Testament.

Jesus Himself said this, “I did not come to do away with the Law but to fulfill it.”
The Apostles said, “Christ is the fulfillment of the Law and.the Prophets.”


#4

Wonderful answer. Thank you.


#5

I’m gonna tell you something related here.

The scholar John Dominic Crossan thinks that the passion narratives were simply invented by the early Christians out of passages from the Old Testament. In his theory, all the (male) disciples of Jesus knew was that He was crucified; they never knew the exact details of His death, because they ran away, and the women only saw Him from afar. (Apparently, in Crossan’s theory, they were so scared they never even bothered to recover His body, which ended up in God knows where. :rolleyes:) In order to fill those in, he claims that they pored over the Scriptures for passages which they thought described/foretold Jesus’ death, and made a story out of them. He calls his theory ‘prophecy historicized’ (which to be honest is a very nifty term).

I think the guy you’re talking to is proposing a related idea. And since we’re talking about ‘prophecy historicized’, I’ll recommend this answer to Crossan by another scholar, Mark Goodacre, who says that perhaps we shouldn’t be thinking about ‘prophecy historicized’ (i.e. stories invented out of OT prophecies) but ‘scripturalization’ (i.e. stories of Jesus’ life and death told and retold using the language of the Hebrew Scriptures). After all, Christians did (and do) have the conviction that Jesus’ life and death were foretold in the OT - “Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures.”

As he explains it:

The multiple echoes of Biblical themes and the varied allusions to Scriptural precedent are plausibly explained on the hypothesis that from the beginning there was an intimate interaction between event, memory, tradition and Scriptural reflection. Events generated Scriptural reflection, which in turn influenced the way the events were remembered and retold. And the process of casting the narrative in this language might be described, to utilise a somewhat cumbersome but nevertheless illuminating term from Hebrew Bible scholarship, scripturalization. This term is used by Judith Newman of Jewish prayers in the Second Temple Period, which increasingly used Scriptural models, precedents and language. The thesis of Newman’s book is that increasing devotion to developing Jewish Scriptures, in a liturgical context in which such Scriptures were getting used more and more, led inexorably to the intermingling of those Scriptures with Jewish prayers. It is a view that could shed some very interesting light on the Passion Narratives in the Gospels.

markgoodacre.org/swan.pdf
markgoodacre.org/Markcrucif.pdf
podacre.blogspot.jp/2011/04/nt-pod-53-are-passion-narratives.html


#6

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