Jesus referring to the End being very near?


#1

Various Gospel passages record how Jesus believed that the second coming would occur very soon, during the lifetime of his followers (i.e. before the end of the 1st century CE). St. Paul, in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-11 also anticipates the event in his near future, and during his own lifetime. He encouraged Christians in Thessalonia to keep alert in anticipation of the coming of the Lord. Of course, both the report of Jesus’ speech (in Mark 9:1) and Paul’s letters (in Thessalonians and in 1 Corinthians 7:26-31) were wrong. Neither the rapture nor Jesus’ second coming happened during the 1st century CE. Some Christians of every age since Jesus’ execution have been anxiously expecting the event, and looking for signs of its coming. Anticipation was heightened as the last year of some centuries approached. Some expected it to happen in 1000 CE. This was not a general belief. Because of the low level of education at the time, the public was not generally aware of the date. There was also a heightened expectation just before the year 1500 CE. It was particularly intense as the year 2000 approached. After 2000-JAN-1, the level of anticipation of the millennium (as stated in the Bible), the end of the world as we know it, and of the rapture subsided somewhat.

Jesus does seem to refer to His Second Coming being very near?

Explanations?


#2

In 2 Thessalonians 2, Paul tells them, “Hey! Didn’t I tell you that certain things must happen first!!!” Among those things is the “Apostasy” – the “Great Falling Away,” which may be happening as we speak, by the way, as Catholic and Protestant churches around the world empty.

In Mark 9:1, Jesus was probably referring to Mark 9:2, which is how Jesus WILL look when He comes.


#3

Jesus was refering to the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in 70 A.D., within a generation by Biblical standards (40 years). Of the end of the world, Jesus said no one knows the time only the Father.


#4

[quote=Todd Easton]Jesus was refering to the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in 70 A.D., within a generation by Biblical standards (40 years). Of the end of the world, Jesus said no one knows the time only the Father.
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This is correct. Though Jesus’ Olivet discourse contains *some * specific references to events directly preceding the Second Coming, most of what he relates refers to the destruction of the Temple, which for the Jews as a religious entity, would be like the end of *their * world. You can draw symbolic comparisons between that event and the end of the world, but the *primary * fulfullment has already happened.


#5

Scripture does tell us that to God, “a thousand years is as one day”. I think that to Jesus, even when He was here on earth, that time was seen/felt/understood in a very different way.
To us, 2000 years seems like forever. To our Lord, it may well seem like only the day before yesterday.


#6

[quote=Zooey]Scripture does tell us that to God, “a thousand years is as one day”. I think that to Jesus, even when He was here on earth, that time was seen/felt/understood in a very different way.
To us, 2000 years seems like forever. To our Lord, it may well seem like only the day before yesterday.
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Be that as it may, the Olivet Discourse really implies that Christ is telling his Apostles that *they *will see what He is predicting in their lifetimes.


#7

[quote=StCsDavid]Be that as it may, the Olivet Discourse really implies that Christ is telling his Apostles that *they *will see what He is predicting in their lifetimes.
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This is wrong. At Mark 13:10, in Mark’s version of the Eschatalogical (“End Times”) Homily, Jesus makes it clear that He is talking to FUTURE Apostles when He says,

But the gospel must first be preached to all nations.”

That did not occur until a very long time after Jesus’ Aostles’ deaths.

Note that this is in the same gospel as the quote of Jesus which Magicsilence claims to have been in error.

Magicsilence is misreading Mark’s gospel.


#8

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