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Remember ALL of the original Catholics WERE Jews. We (and they 2000 years ago) see Catholicism as fulfilled Judaism.
Joybearer and DaddyGirl.
As far as contemporary rabbinic Jewish adherents rejecting Jesus’ Messiahship based on rebuilding the Temple, the Temple wasn’t even destroyed yet in Jesus’ day so already there is one obvious shortcoming in the collage of objections from the website.
If this was an obvious issue at the time, why didn’t Caiaphas just say to Jesus at His trial (or some other time):
“Jesus. Not only has the Temple not been re-built yet, but it hasn’t even been destroyed. So we are all rejecting your Messiahship based upon this issue Jesus.”
Now admittedly it became an issue when people had time to reflect back on the Old Testament (Jesus has that covered too), but it was not an issue in Jesus’ day.
And think about it. All of the first Catholics were Jewish. We even went to Temple. St. Paul studied under rabbi Gamaliel. Such points would not have slipped by him/them.
But as I said, Jesus anticipated/foreknew of these objections and pre-empted them in His Messianic fulfillment.
JOHN 2:18-20 18 The Jews then said to him, "What sign have you to show us for doing this?" 19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." 20 The Jews then said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?"
What rebuilding of the Temple would you think of, hearing this above?
Fortunately the Holy Spirit through St. John tells us in the very next two verses.
JOHN 2:21-22 21 But he spoke of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this; and they believed the scripture and the word which Jesus had spoken.
CCC 586 Far from having been hostile to the Temple, where he gave the essential part of his teaching, Jesus was willing to pay the Temple-tax, associating with him Peter, whom he had just made the foundation of his future Church.359 He even identified himself with the Temple by presenting himself as God's definitive dwelling-place among men.360 Therefore his being put to bodily death361 presaged the destruction of the Temple, which would manifest the dawning of a new age in the history of salvation: "The hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father."362
CCC 994b . . . . Already now in this present life he gives a sign and pledge of this by restoring some of the dead to life,546 announcing thereby his own Resurrection, though it was to be of another order. He speaks of this unique event as the "sign of Jonah,"547 the sign of the temple: he announces that he will be put to death but rise thereafter on the third day.548
If you want, we can look at other issues brought up too that are from the website you cited from a fulfilled Jewish (Catholic) perspective.
I just ask that you ask about a specific objection (like the rebuilding he Temple issue) instead of asking me to address the whole website.
Incidentally not only is Jesus the rebuilt Temple, but He incorporates Christians into this temple. That’s WHY we are referred to as “living stones” even before the Temple building was destroyed. Christians are members of "the Body of Christ" and as such we are built into Jesus Himself.
1st PETER 2:4-9 4 Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God's sight chosen and precious; 5 and like living stones be yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in scripture: "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame." 7 To you therefore who believe, he is precious, but for those who do not believe, "The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner," 8 and "A stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall"; for they stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. 9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.
See also 1st Corinthians 3:16-17.
Not one of those objections cited from the referred website against our Lord Jesus are persuasive.
Thanks for informative reply. I understand that it is a hassle to address the entire website and I assure you that I'm not being lazy and asking for a "clip and paste" answer to throw at my friend. Rather, I am guilty of being ill informed and many of these assertions threw me off where they may appear to you as being very weak arguments. Simply put, you have answered point A of the first assertion but I'm unable to answer B, C, D as well. And nearly all other assertions made in that website(except 5D onwards which seems to be just rants).
If it's not too much of a trouble, can you list the relevant biblical verses in regards to the assertions and I can will go about reading them and finding complementary Catholic teachings to be summarized and explained to my friend.
Again, I am genuinely curious and forgive my ignorance. I see that all of them are reference with old testament texts. Wouldn't answering these assertions with new testaments quotes lack the power to convince? I think it might be analogous to answering atheism with Biblical quotes.
Thanks a lot!