Jewish Group Wants a Davidic King


#1

…"For the past several years a group called the Monarchists has conducted extensive research into the lineage of several families in an effort to discover who has the closest bloodline to the biblical King David – a requirement for any future Jewish king.

Rabbi Yosef Dayan from Psagot, known for his recent threats to place a death curse on Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, is said to be a leading candidate to become the “king of Israel.”

“Dayan has the best lineage to King David,” several members of the Sanhedrin told The Jerusalem Post. They say he has two documented ancient sources which draw a direct line between him and the males in his family to King David some 3,000 years ago.

“Many people can show they are descendants of King David, but they cannot show that the line is only male,” one Sanhedrin member explained. “That makes Dayan the leading candidate to become king.”

The Monarchists have consulted with non-Jewish experts on lineage. They concurred that, without a doubt, Dayan is a direct descendent of the House of David.

The only question now is how to establish the Jewish monarchy in spite of the presiding democratic government.

“There are two possibilities,” Dayan explained. “The first is that the nation or a majority from within will want the monarchy and will uproot the presiding democratic government.”

The second, more realistic option, he said, is “the one cited by Maimonides – and that is that no one will know how it will be until it happens.”

Some of the other ideas discussed at the Sanhedrin meeting included the construction of an altar on the Temple Mount to be used for the Passover Offering during the upcoming holiday.

One of the ideas, members said, is to climb the Mount and build the altar within minutes and sacrifice the lamb before security forces can stop them. Another, said leading Sanhedrin member Baruch Ben-Yosef, is to pray for a tsunami-like disaster on the Mount.

“In one second, God wiped out 150,000 people,” he said. “Who knows? Maybe he’ll help us if we show him we are ready.”

Participants also discussed Ben-Yosef’s idea of reinstating the Sanhedrin’s authority to announce Rosh Hodesh, the beginning of the new lunar month.
“It is very important to reinstate the Sanhedrin’s authority to announce the month, because it will force people to understand that God gave us the power to control the calendar and our own destiny,” Ben-Yosef said."

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#2

oh dear !! These people are after power at any price.

Maggie


#3

Hi all!

I see that my, shall I say, more eccentric (for want of a different term) brethren are at it again. This bunch is composed of well-known extremists whose popular and rabbinic following is in inverse proportion to the publicity that they have a penchant for generating for themselves. They take themselves far more seriously than anyone else does. But the newspaper business being what it is, extremists (as opposed to staid moderates) make for juicy headlines.

Be well!

ssv :wave:


#4

[quote=stillsmallvoice]Hi all!

I see that my, shall I say, more eccentric (for want of a different term) brethren are at it again. This bunch is composed of well-known extremists whose popular and rabbinic following is in inverse proportion to the publicity that they have a penchant for generating for themselves. They take themselves far more seriously than anyone else does. But the newspaper business being what it is, extremists (as opposed to staid moderates) make for juicy headlines.

Be well!

ssv :wave:
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Ah the voice of reason :yup: :tiphat: :blessyou:

Maggie


#5

Hmmmm… I wonder whether this was why Jesus never married. To make sure the Davidic line ended with him.

Just a lousy thought.


#6

[quote=porthos11]Hmmmm… I wonder whether this was why Jesus never married. To make sure the Davidic line ended with him.

Just a lousy thought.
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Maybe Dayan traces his routes through one of the hundreds of wives of Solomon :whacky:

Maggie


#7

[quote=MaggieOH]Maybe Dayan traces his routes through one of the hundreds of wives of Solomon :whacky:

Maggie
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Heh heh. Three hundred actually. And don’t forget the 700 concubines. That’s a thousand women!


#8

[quote=porthos11]Heh heh. Three hundred actually. And don’t forget the 700 concubines. That’s a thousand women!
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Not to mention the nagging mothers-in-law. Who could stand for it? :whacky:

Maggie


#9

If I remember my OT correctly, things did not go great for the children of Israel the last time they demanded God give them a king. Saul (loser), David, Solomon, then downhill from there. I should think a descendent of David, if he is anything like those in Kings and Chronicles would be a disaster, unless he is the one Messiah the prophets foretell.


#10

Hi all!

Maggie, you posted:

Ah the voice of reason :yup: :tiphat: :blessyou:

  1. You should catch me before I’ve had my coffee!

  2. Thank you!

Porthos11, you posted:

I wonder whether this was why Jesus never married. To make sure the Davidic line ended with him.

About that…

We respectfully believe that the Davidic line continued well after Jesus’ time. See tinyurl.com/3laof.

Puzzleannie, you posted:

If I remember my OT correctly, things did not go great for the children of Israel the last time they demanded God give them a king. Saul (loser), David, Solomon, then downhill from there. I should think a descendent of David, if he is anything like those in Kings and Chronicles would be a disaster, unless he is the one Messiah the prophets foretell.

I respectfully submit that the foregoing is incorrect. We believe that Samuel was so upset with the people, not because we were reuesting a king per se (after all, Deuteronomy 17 instructs to appoint one!), but because we were requesting the wrong kind of king for the wrong reasons. Many of David’s descendants were good kings (Asa, Jehosaphat, Jotham, Hezekiah & Josiah). As II Kings 21 tells us, God did not decree the destruction of Jerusalem & the First Temple :crying: until Manasseh’s reign.

Be well!

ssv :wave:


#11

Manasseh was in an impossible position - if he had not done as the Assyrians told him to do, Jerusalem would in all likelihood have been destroyed by Sennacherib’s successors, a century before Nebuchadnezzar destroyed it.

IMO he has been much maligned - and the Assyrians did some nasty things to rebellious vassal rulers; such as impaling or flaying them. Not nice.

The king I’m really sorry for is the last one, Zedekiah :frowning: (the Hasmoneans don’t really count, ISTM.) ##


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[quote=Gottle of Geer]## Manasseh was in an impossible position - if he had not done as the Assyrians told him to do, Jerusalem would in all likelihood have been destroyed by Sennacherib’s successors, a century before Nebuchadnezzar destroyed it.

IMO he has been much maligned - and the Assyrians did some nasty things to rebellious vassal rulers; such as impaling or flaying them. Not nice.

The king I’m really sorry for is the last one, Zedekiah :frowning: (the Hasmoneans don’t really count, ISTM.) ##
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Still, does that justify Manasseh’s passing his son through the fire and slaughtering his own people in Jerusalem?

Besides, it’s these crimes that sealed God’s judgment on Jerusalem anyway.


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[quote=stillsmallvoice]Hi all!

I see that my, shall I say, more eccentric (for want of a different term) brethren are at it again. This bunch is composed of well-known extremists whose popular and rabbinic following is in inverse proportion to the publicity that they have a penchant for generating for themselves. They take themselves far more seriously than anyone else does. But the newspaper business being what it is, extremists (as opposed to staid moderates) make for juicy headlines.

Be well!

ssv :wave:
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Stillsmallvoice: Have they found a red heifer yet?


#14

BS’D

Some of the other ideas discussed at the Sanhedrin meeting included the construction of an altar on the Temple Mount to be used for the Passover Offering during the upcoming holiday.

A red flag for anyone familiar with “Jewish Politics.” You’ll find that only extremists recongnize it.


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