[quote=Angainor]Thank you all for your responses.
I see the initial conclusions I drew from the radio apologist show weren’t quite right, the Catholic position is much more self-consistant than I thought.
I just don’t happen to agree that Joseph and Mary’s marriage would have been on some higher level because they abstained from marital relations, which is the impression I get from such discussions. Maybe that is not what Catholics think at all. A good question to ask to test this would be:
What would you’re reaction be to the idea of Joseph and Mary having marital relations?
That is a good question. One that offers an opportunity for a more free exchange of ideas.
When Catholics hear the Gospel words " the Kingdom of God is among you" or “thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven” it is understood as a life once only lived in heaven has been established on earth and in time.
Jesus revealed to us what a heavenly life looks like and how it is recieved on earth. He is the seed that establishes that heavenly tree of life. That life is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, but we are not.When we experience conversion it seems the whole world has changed. It seems as if everything is different than it was before. We therefore respond to our new reality in a different way as well. From the converts perspective it’s the world that has changed, to the world the only thing that is different is the convert.
The life that Jesus offers is a conversion that if experienced to it’s completion while on earth would cause a person to react to the world’s new appearance in a way that would radically change the fundamental purposes of their life. The source of what drives purpose would not be earthly but heavenly, since life in heaven is the fulfillment of life on earth procreating would no longer even be a drive.
Yet this heavenly life wouldn’t react that way to a world of Original Innocense but it does to a world steeped in the worship of carnal senses as the end of human life.
So, for a Catholic the idea that Joseph and Mary had marital relations would change the meaning of their lives and everything we accept about who they are and what they mean would collapse, and not only what they mean to catholics but since much of what all christians hold true about who they are, what their lives mean is supported by this Catholic perspective what they mean to most Christians would collapse as well.