[quote=Lazerlike42]But you have to understand WHY it is wrong, and that is because of God’s sole right to power over life. He tells us, both in words (Moses, Jesus, Scripture) and in our hearts, murder is wrong, but wrong ONLY BECAUSE WE CAN’T DECIDE WHEN TO END A LIFE. That is the entire basis for the law, even the law written in our hearts (just because atheists don’t understand this it doesn’t make it true). When GOD DECIDES that a life can end, then it’s no violation for us to end the life because the SPIRIT of the law is about us choosing when to end a life.
Are you saying that murder is wrong, unless God commands us to murder? Or that genocide is wrong, unless God commands it?
I would say that murder is absolutely wrong, and God never commands it. That genocide is absolutely wrong, and that God never commands it.
Both of these are moral evils which God does never Himself directly (which is not the case here) or indirectly (which you may be arguing) cause.
God may command you to enact His will and kill somebody, but never to murder them (which is, by definition, the taking of an innocent life for no reason).*****
Killing someone is not a sin. Murdering them is. This is exemplified by the fact that not every time a police officer guns a criminal down, he:
a). was commanded by God;
b). is committing an evil act.
Even if we did understand it the way it really is, God still couldn’t tell it to us that way because atheists wouldn’t read the Bible or anything and so they wouldn’t get that. Now you might ask why God can’t simply write in their hearts the full meaning of the law so they needn’t go looking for it. The answer is, that God could have written in their hearts that He exists, but He simply chose NOT to for reasons that are completely and only up to Him.
Didn’t God write His existence on every human heart? Isn’t it Original Sin that causes us to disobey Him, fail to recognize by our own reasoning the whole of Natural Law, and allow our Pride to impede our Faith?
Now it’s important to understand that God’s revelation is not limited to what He has told us. He has also revealed His ways to us by writing a basic moral code in our hearts. We all know murder is wrong because He wrote it in their when we were born, which is why atheists know.
We do not know the whole of Divine Law, but we do know Natural Law–which is made for us and based on the former–although Original Sin muddies our apprehension of it, which is why God clarifies it for us in Revelation. He does not create morality by His commandments (Divine Command Theory), but affirms the morality He has already created.
As parents we do this all the time. We tell our young children not to go near the stove. We don’t tell them the FULL meaning, which would be close to don’t touch the stove when it’s on, because they can’t understand this. When they grow up, of course, we tell them. We, as humans, need to “grow up” too, to understand God’s laws in all their fullness, but the closest we can do is go to Heaven (we will never grow up and be gods ourselves, in other words).
Sure, we can use the analogy that God understands morality wholly, infinitely and perfectly in the Divine Law, but this does not negate the absolute value of Natural Law, which is based upon it. Perhaps I am missing your point again… but I fail to see how we can argue that God would ever contradict Natural Law, when He is unchanging, especially given the fact that there is no evidence in Scripture or Tradition to show that He ever does this.
*****You may bring up the objection that a madman could just as easily say that God commanded Him to kill someone, and therefore He is justified; however, this is much trickier in practice, as the Apostle Paul writes with authority that Christians are to obey their civil government (Romans 13:1).
Moreover, in the age of the Church, she is the ultimate interpreter of God’s word; therefore, if anyone were to claim a private revelation from God *against *her teaching, we can safely assume that they are a nutcase or a liar.