Interesting thread unfolding.
First I think we all betray Jesus through sin. The very word ‘sin’ in our cultural spiritual understanding is to turn away from Jesus to some degree or other. We also understand that these very same sins contributed to the death of Jesus. We are all in some measure guilty, not only Judas.
Second, we cannot know Judas’ disposition between rope and earth…perhaps prior to death he was sorry. “Between stirrup and ground, Mercy I sought and Mercy I found” as Maklaven pointed out in his quote from William Camden.
As another Poster pointed out all these matters are purely speculation since who can discern who is and who is not outside the Eternal and Infinite Mercy of God. Personally I do hope to see Judas in Heaven…both of us victims of that self same Infinite Mercy.
As to “Jesus Christ Superstar” I agree with the Poster who found Judas in the opera a whinning confused being…I found the Judas of the Opera very much like me at times and that was the positive thing that the Opera did say to me amongst other matters.
Also I found this comment from Australian Catholic News Resources quite insightful of history and how history affected our spiritual attitudes and history always does…
[font=Times New Roman][font=Arial]"…Within Christendom, a close alliance of church and government meant that Christians often played down Jesus’ radical message of mercy, love and forgiveness. Such values did not sit well with a church which had to play a part in governing, waging wars imprisonment and torture, and Jesus was often interpreted in more retributive terms.
As the church moves further from government however, room is made for interpretations of Jesus to re-emerge that are more in keeping with ideas of forgiveness rather than punishment…"[/font]
In Scripture The Lord does appear to condemn Judas…then we all stand under that condemnation to some degree…and equally rescued from it by the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do” And I am convinced that if I really knew the horror of sin compared with God’s Goodness, I would die rather than even commit the slightest fault let alone venial sin.
If at final judgement I am to be a victim of God’s Justice, then I am in real trouble indeed and am condemned. I hope however ardently to be rather and with all a victim of His Divine Infinite Mercy. “That you be without reproach when you judge, oh see Lord, a sinner was I conceived” (Divine Office)
There is perhaps nothing quite so much to ponder over “in fear and trembling” as “Not all who say Lord! Lord! shall enter into My Kingdom”…it sure makes me tremble.
As I see things…Regards - Barb:) [/font]