I appreciate you answering my questions. Okay… If you will allow me to address these scriptures you’ve mentioned in regard to progressive justification, I will. I wrote more than I intended. take your time.
I can see how you come to the conclusions you have. Actually you left out a bunch of very similar examples. The idea that one is “cut off” from Christ is to assume his justification is either cancelled or withdrawn, based on one’s lack of kindness, as Paul wrote in Romans 11. Justification for you is “pending” a final review of your life. I understand why you think this based on the scriptures you chose.
Certainly it is understandable to hear Paul’s words to the Church at Corinth talk about standing for Christ, “by which you are saved, if YOU HOLD FAST… implying that if you do not hold fast you will lose your justification.
The 1st. Tim 5 passage is, again,
understandable with its apostasy message. “. . . he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” By the way, the word disowned there is not disowned. Modern translations try to slip this in all the time. A better word for it’s Greek counterpart is DENY… HE HAS DENIED THE FAITH. (to disown is an entirely different Greek word.) We all know what Jesus said about denying the faith. If we do this, He will deny us …
I saved the Rom. 8 passage for last. It is the best way to make my point. In this particular passage we can separate the seeming fusion between justification and sanctification for Roman Catholics and many Protestants too. This passage will do that. Paul said,” The Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God.” Awesome! We’ve been justified and the holy Spirit bears witness to this wonderful fact. “And, if we are children, then we are also “heirs” of God.” again… good news…
He’s talking about an heir of eternal life itself based on the fact that we are Children of God.
We inherit eternal life because we became the recipients of His generosity and love. But Paul continues here, (ignore the punctuations. Editors try to interpret) … we are heirs of God AND FELLOW HEIRS. (a better word here is joint-heir)… this is one who co-inherits and co-reigns with Christ. But there is a big “IF” in the passage. … IF we suffer with Him (implying Christian persecution) in order that we may also be glorified with Him.”
Under this reading of the text, there are two forms of heirship. One of these is based on being a child of God alone, while the other is based on suffering with Christ. This distinction is crucial on this subject. Paul is saying all of God’s children are heirs simply because they are children. They inherit eternal life itself and all that this in tales.
But those who suffer with Christ, on the other hand, have a special “joint heirship” with Christ. It is of great significance that later in this chapter Christ is actually described as the “firstborn among many brethren.” Naturally the firstborn Son receives a double portion of His Father’s inheritance.
The firstborn Son here invites His bride (The Church at Rome) to suffer with him which will result in a co-heirship, which in turn will result in a co-glory. This concept makes passages like 2nd. Tim. 2:12 make better sense. “If we endure, we shall also reign with Him.” The implication is that if we DO NOT endure, OR we DENY and REFUSE Him, we will not reign with Him. He will deny us at the judgment seat.
But none of this suggests we will no longer be his children or that our justification is cancelled or rendered a final judgment. It suggests that there are various classes of authority in the Kingdom of God and we will not all be equal in the inheritance.
So (again) the Romans 8 passage is an example of a category of non-achieving children who joyfully inherit eternal life freely, coupled with those who if they will suffer for Christ, will gain a co-heirship and potentially include co-glory.
In a sense, this idea creates a category of winners and losers in God’s kingdom. God’s children who fail to answer the call to suffer for Christ, or who fail to take up their cross and follow, or who fail to leave houses and lands and brothers and sisters … will not inherit=take up ownership of the kingdom of God. Inheritance in Jewish custom was always meritorious.
But I think you go too far when you suggest the failing believer loses their justification. You have no choice but to do it by implication only. There is no overt or explicit teaching in the New Testament about losing justification. Why not? I would think such an important subject as losing your eternal salvation would be all over the New Testament. Now, Paul knew they could lose their salvation!.. but in what sense? Temporal?, or eternal?.. temporally of course. (see my grid at the end.)
The Galatian church was also told they were “cut off.” They were guilty to believe that keeping the Law was a means to justification. Paul said they were cut off. They fell from grace INTO the strict code of law-keeping.
But cut off in what sense? He addresses them as the Galatian Church which they were. Apparently they weren’t cut off eternally, otherwise Paul would have addressed them as the “used- to-be Galatian church, or the unsaved unbelieving Church. He did not. He treated them as if they were “in Christ” even with their deceptions concerning how one is justified.
They were cut off in terms of fellowship with God and God’s way of doing things. Why? because they insisted on relying on the rules of the law as a means to obtain justification, a Justification they already had. Paul used powerful language to rebuke them. Who has bewitched you? Who has corrupted you?
Consider this three-fold salvation grid. I’ve posted it here before.