[quote=“tgGodsway, post:1295, topic:442045”]
This progressive gift of justification, or, I like to use the term justification “pending a final outcome” is based on particular scriptures that warn the believer of failure. For instance, when the Apostle Paul wrote to the Colossians and said, [/quote]
“Progressive gift of justification” --??? Certainly I wouldn’t word it that way. To me that implies the idea that once you are “saved” you are always “saved” no matter what you do. St. Paul clearly contradicts that–“continue in the faith” = “don’t commit a mortal sin” = “don’t reject God and Sanctifying grace.”
“justification as a process to be evaluated” —??? “Justification” is a term I would never use. If you want to use it in the sense of “redeemed,” OK. But certainly it’s not a process. By His death on the cross, Jesus redeemed mankind, past, present, and future. It was a single act, not a process. By this act, each person is given the opportunity (notice the choice of words) to get to Heaven. It’s not a guarantee. As I said in a post a couple above yours, Christ’s death opens the door. You have to walk through the door by yourself. You can choose, with your free will, to reject God, redemption, Sandtifying grace, all of it. It’s your choice.
I Colossians. It seems pretty clear to me. Paul went to Corinth, told the people that the law of Moses no longer applied to them (gentile converts to Christianity), they misunderstood and basically said, “Whee, we can do whatever we want!!!” and Paul had to come back and say “No, you idiots. When I said ‘the law of Moses’ I meant the dietary restrictions and so on. The ethical laws still apply!”
[quote=“tgGodsway, post:1296, topic:442045”]
The failing believer walks on egg shells wondering if they have enough faith and works to cross the finish line…Both sides are pathetic and unscriptural in my view. [/quote]
Couldn’t have said it better: pathetic. Let’s leave the faith part out of it, since you can be an atheists or a Buddhist and still go to Heaven. The concept of “enough works” is not a Catholic idea, except in the sense that possibly better people might somehow (who knows how!) have a better “experience” in Heaven. But it flip the Catholic view 180 degrees: if you’re going to Hell, you know it. Why? Because you chose to do a serious act that you knew would lead to a rejection of God and Sanctifying grace. You were conscious of what you were doing, and gave full consent to it. [i.e., you’re not “earning” your way to Heaven–that’s Pelagianism, a heresy] There is also a school of thought that we are not capable of “full consent” in this life because of a host of factors–genetic makeup, our upbringing and psychology, circumstances pushing us this way and that, etc. This school of thought thinks that the only way to give “full consent” is after death–you are presented with your serious (mortal) sins after your death, when you will is unfettered from all earthly concerns. If you still embrace your sins, off you go to Hell. If you say, “Wow. What was I thinking! I’m sorry I did that!” off you go to Heaven. Sounds reasonable to me.