Kissing Someone Who is Divorced

If person A is Catholic and single, is it wrong to kiss (make-out) with person B who is not Catholic and who has been civilly divorced?

Thanks.

no it is not.

Yes this is sinful. Check out these links to see what Fr. Serpa has said.

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=913258

forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=901822

I will let you answer this yourself.

Is it sinful to make out with a married person ?

The civilly divorced person is assumed married by the church.

It is sinful to make out with anyone to whom you are not married. Even making out with your spouse can be sinful, if it is lustful (i.e. using the other person as an object for your personal enjoyment, rather than expressing genuine love).

Sinful to kiss if you are not married? I don’t agree with you there.

The OP specified ‘making out,’ which implies more than a peck on the lips.

Check out the lower link I posted.

You cannot lust after your own spouse? Surely you jest.

I think you can lust after your own spouse. But I don;t think making out is doing that.

Note how I defined lust above. Do you think it’s okay to treat your wife as a piece of meat?

Thanks for the responses. I read the Catechism and I believe I have a good grasp on the teachings for Christians, but I wasn’t sure about the rules for nonbelievers. See part I bolded.

When Jesus came, he elevated matrimony to the same status it had originally possessed between Adam and Eve—the status of a sacrament. Thus, any valid marriage between two baptized people is a sacramental marriage and, once consummated, cannot be dissolved. Jesus, therefore, taught that if anyone so married divorces and remarries, that person is living in perpetual adultery, a state of mortal sin.

He said, “Every one who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery” (Luke 16:18; cf. Mark 10:11–12).

Paul was equally insistent on this fact, declaring, “Thus a married woman is bound by law to her husband as long as he lives. . . . Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive” (Rom. 7:2–3).

This applied, of course, only to sacramental marriages—those between baptized people. For marriages involving an unbaptized party, a different rule applied (1 Cor. 7:12–15).

In the midst of the Greco-Roman culture, which allowed for easy divorce and remarriage, the early Church Fathers proclaimed Christ’s teaching on the indissolubility of marriage—just as the Catholic Church does today in our modern, secular, easy-divorce culture (cf. Catechism of the Catholic Church 1614–1615). Other denominations have modified their teachings to accommodate the pro-divorce ethos that dominates modern culture, but the Catholic Church preserves the teaching of Jesus and the early Christians.

While their ex-spouses are alive, the only time that a baptized couple can remarry after divorce is when a valid sacramental marriage never existed in the first place. For example, for a marriage to be contracted, the two parties must exchange valid matrimonial consent. If they do not, the marriage is null. If the competent authority (a diocesan marriage tribunal) establishes this fact, a decree of nullity (commonly called an annulment) can be granted, and the parties are free to remarry (CCC 1629). In this case there is no divorce followed by remarriage in God’s eyes because there was no marriage before God in the first place, merely a marriage in the eyes of men.

If, however, the parties are genuinely and sacramentally married, then, while in some cases there may be good reasons for them to live apart and even to obtain a legal separation, in God’s eyes they are not free to remarry (CCC 1649).

This is not a commandment of men, but one that comes directly from Jesus Christ. As Paul said, “To the married I give charge, not I but the Lord, that the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, let her remain single or else be reconciled to her husband)—and that the husband should not divorce his wife” (1 Cor. 7:10-11).

more here:
catholic.com/tracts/the-permanence-of-matrimony

I agree we shouldn’t “use” a spouse (or any human being for that matter), but I strongly disagree that it is wrong for nonmarried couples to make out. You don’t just fall in love when you walk down the aisle. Those feelings start to grow as you become closer to someone and expressing them via kissing is not sinful.

The church determines this by looking into the manner. Not the individual. All marriages are considered valid until the church says otherwise. Even those of none Christians.

Here is a quote from our very own forum apologist Fr. Vincent Serpa.

"Passionate kissing is an exclusive expression of affection. It is not the ordinary way people relate to just anybody. While you may like each other, your relationship is not exclusive yet. You are both free to go your separate ways. Passionate kissing is appropriate when it is in sync with the exclusive relationship that we call marriage.

I expect that this info will not resonate with you, especially now that your are in the habit of enjoying and justifying it. But the fact that you asked about, tells me that your conscience is not entirely comfortable with it. And rightly so. Listen to it.

Fr. Vincent Serpa, O.P."

May God Bless you and Grant you Peace

Couples decide to be exclusive long before they get married.

My conscience is comfortable with it provided I’m not leading anyone on.

I shall not continue to argue lest I argue hostilely.

May God Abundantly Bless you

People should not be making out with people to whom they are not married–passionate kissing is to be reserved between spouses. Making out with a divorced person is objectively a mortal sin; and divorced persons are not free to date others, for in God’s eye they are still married to their spouse. A valid marriage is indissoluble. God bless you.

Examination of Conscience:

“Did I engage in acts such as …“necking,” passionate kisses, or prolonged embraces?”

From the Handbook of Prayers. Edited by Fr. Jim Socias Midwest Theological Forum (quoted by the Catholic News Agency)

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