Lady Gaga Releases Another Blasphemous Song

It's called "Born This Way". Here are some lyrics:

A different lover is not a sin

Believe capital H-I-M (hey, hey, hey)

I'm beautiful in my way,
'Cause God makes no mistakes
I'm on the right track, baby

I was born this way

No matter gay, straight or bi
lesbian, transgendered life

I'm on the right track, baby

Basically in the song she tries to convince that God is OK with homosexuality. Hopefully in this music video she won't dress up as a nun who swallows a Rosary... like in her last video...

-Restituo

Those are pretty silly lyrics. :P

She's a pig and always will be.

She has a massive gay/lesbian following, this is just as much a publicity/fan-pleasing exercise as anything else.

I don't see anything particularly offensive in the lyrics. I find it very in-your-face but I don't like her anyway, she can't even sing! She's more "Lady Autotune" than Gaga.

Not only is it against what God wants, it is also very damaging to young people to encourage them to participate in risky behavior, and can help push people into depression when they should be seeking help. Or they'll get STDs and/or certain kinds of cancers from doing those activities.

There is no "gay gene"... no, you were not born that way. New studies show that same sex attraction is caused by environmental factors. Lesbians have been treated badly by men in the past, whether it be their fathers, ex-boyfriend, or other male in their life. Gay men are searching for male approval. They need companions who are other good Christian men. Many of them were not good at sports growing up and were not accepted by their male classmates growing up, so they started to act feminine and hang out with the girls (not healthy; boys need friends who are other boys). Or they had abusive/neglectful fathers. There are a few other factors, but those are the big ones. Nobody was "born" gay.

And transgendered people have even bigger problems they need to sort out. How is it ever good to mutilate healthy organs? If someone wanted to have hands where their feet are and told their doctor they've always felt like that was they way they were supposed to be, they would be told "no" and probably referred to get mental help. But if someone wants to cut off their genitals and replace them with something else, that is somehow healthy/okay/acceptable? What the heck?!

That's to be expected of her, she's walking in the footsteps of her idol (Madonna) who's no stranger to use religious themes in dubious manners herself. I'd note in passing that these two were brought up as Catholics. Also what LemonAndLime says about who make up her following.

no she is just a beautiful creation of God that seemingly tries to seek him but is lost to him , she is no more than a lost sheep pray for her because she has the potentiality to be the greatest of saints like all of you here
St. Mary Magdalene, ORA PRO NOBIS

[quote="stephe1987, post:5, topic:230764"]
Not only is it against what God wants, it is also very damaging to young people to encourage them to participate in risky behavior, and can help push people into depression when they should be seeking help. Or they'll get STDs and/or certain kinds of cancers from doing those activities.

There is no "gay gene"... no, you were not born that way. New studies show that same sex attraction is caused by environmental factors. Lesbians have been treated badly by men in the past, whether it be their fathers, ex-boyfriend, or other male in their life. Gay men are searching for male approval. They need companions who are other good Christian men. Many of them were not good at sports growing up and were not accepted by their male classmates growing up, so they started to act feminine and hang out with the girls (not healthy; boys need friends who are other boys). Or they had abusive/neglectful fathers. There are a few other factors, but those are the big ones. Nobody was "born" gay.

And transgendered people have even bigger problems they need to sort out. How is it ever good to mutilate healthy organs? If someone wanted to have hands where their feet are and told their doctor they've always felt like that was they way they were supposed to be, they would be told "no" and probably referred to get mental help. But if someone wants to cut off their genitals and replace them with something else, that is somehow healthy/okay/acceptable? What the heck?!

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I just want to add that there are just as many studies which show biological factors in the formation of sexual orientation as those who claim there are none. Interesting, those who claim there is none have a vested interest in proving that and tend to be the most dubious in their research methods. Also I really think you should educate yourself more about this topic. Do all gay men/women fall into your psychosocial analysis? I don't think so. Many gay people are that way because they're not good at sports? Are you being serious?

[quote="Walter_Casler, post:3, topic:230764"]
She's a pig and always will be.

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While I Totally Disagree With And Hate The Message That Lady Gaga Is Putting Out To The Masses, I Have to Say That Your Comment Was Both UnCharitable And Even UnChristian. :(

What Do you Expect From Someone Like Lady Gaga, Anyway?:shrug:

What We Need To Do Is Pray For Her Return To The Catholic Faith She Abandoned Some Time Ago And For A Positive, Christian/Catholic Message Videos Or Songs To Be Aggressively Disseminated To The Public to Counteract The Sinful Message That Gaga And Others Are Allowed To Delude Our Children/Young People With.

We Need To Proclaim The Truth Of The Faith And Of Natural Common Sense.

Nasty Name Calling Will Not "Do It.":thumbsup:

[quote="KaneKatholic, post:7, topic:230764"]
no she is just a beautiful creation of God that seemingly tries to seek him but is lost to him , she is no more than a lost sheep pray for her because she has the potentiality to be the greatest of saints like all of you here
St. Mary Magdalene, ORA PRO NOBIS

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Agreed. :thumbsup:

[quote="LemonAndLime, post:8, topic:230764"]
I just want to add that there are just as many studies which show biological factors in the formation of sexual orientation as those who claim there are none. Interesting, those who claim there is none have a vested interest in proving that and tend to be the most dubious in their research methods. Also I really think you should educate yourself more about this topic. Do all gay men/women fall into your psychosocial analysis? I don't think so. Many gay people are that way because they're not good at sports? Are you being serious?

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Sadly this is the case in any kind of research.

Gay men are searching for male approval. They need companions who are other good Christian men. Many of them were not good at sports growing up and were not accepted by their male classmates growing up, so they started to act feminine and hang out with the girls (not healthy; boys need friends who are other boys). Or they had abusive/neglectful fathers. There are a few other factors, but those are the big ones. Nobody was "born" gay.

I'm sorry... but this is just stupid. My father was abusive. I've not spoken to him in 17 years (his choice). I was never into sports. I spent most of my time growing up with my mother, two sisters and some of my closest friends growing up were female. I assure you. I'm nowhere near being homosexual.

I also don't feel the need for male approval. I can honestly say that everything positive I've learned in life I've learned from my mother and everything that I know NOT to do I learned from my father. And I'm a better man for it.

Also, as LemonAndLime pointed out for every study that shows you one thing you can find at least two more that show you something different. It's all in how the research is formulated and then presented.

She's not treading any new territory here. Madonna and others did it all before. I just see her as a Madonna want to be with not much to say for herself. Don't get me wrong I didn't like Madonna either I just feel she had a little more natural talent. In any case I guess there always has a to be a Madonna type around and she's just filling the void until someone else comes along. :confused:;):cool:

[quote="mdrummer5, post:11, topic:230764"]
Sadly this is the case in any kind of research.

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However, research which attempts to prove that homosexuality is unnatural tends to be funded by groups fronted by people like Scott Lively or organisations called "Protecting the Family" or "Ultra-Conservative Christians" (with members who have a past history of assaulting homosexuals)"... like Scott Lively. The majority of studies I've seen about homosexuality which show evidence for it being natural are more likely to have a wider participant group, tend to have University backing, and tend to be carried out by scientists/psychologists who have no outward political/religious agenda (i.e. aren't proclaiming that they're part of certain groups). But certain members on this forum will tell me that that is part of the Homosexualist Agenda Plot which has infiltrated all of society to poison our minds, and their secret lair is under a volcano or something.

I'm sorry... but this is just stupid. My father was abusive. I've not spoken to him in 17 years (his choice). I was never into sports. I spent most of my time growing up with my mother, two sisters and some of my closest friends growing up were female. I assure you. I'm nowhere near being homosexual.

I also don't feel the need for male approval. I can honestly say that everything positive I've learned in life I've learned from my mother and everything that I know NOT to do I learned from my father. And I'm a better man for it.

Also, as LemonAndLime pointed out for every study that shows you one thing you can find at least two more that show you something different. It's all in how the research is formulated and then presented.

Thank you, and I quite agree with you. I hesitate to say this but I believe many of our members are often tempted to fall into the "this is us and that is them" trap and think that "them" had a very particular upbringing which led to how they were, because it's much easier to think that then to accept that maybe they were brought up the same as us. Like the Nazis.

Less than 2 pages and the Nazis have already been brought into the discussion, I'm ashamed, but unfortunately they suit so many metaphors online.

[quote="LemonAndLime, post:13, topic:230764"]
However, research which attempts to prove that homosexuality is unnatural tends to be funded by groups fronted by people like Scott Lively or organisations called "Protecting the Family" or "Ultra-Conservative Christians" (with members who have a past history of assaulting homosexuals)"... like Scott Lively. The majority of studies I've seen about homosexuality which show evidence for it being natural are more likely to have a wider participant group, tend to have University backing, and tend to be carried out by scientists/psychologists who have no outward political/religious agenda (i.e. aren't proclaiming that they're part of certain groups). But certain members on this forum will tell me that that is part of the *Homosexualist Agenda Plot which has infiltrated all of society to poison our minds, and their secret lair is under a volcano or something. *

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LOL... I know you're serious but there's a joke there somewhere. I agree. I've known quite a few homosexuals some I've considered friends and the only "agenda" any I've known had was to live comfortably in a society that will never fully accept them. Do I think it's wrong? Yes. However, I recognize two things, I will NEVER understand the mental torment that they go through and that it is not my place to judge them as so many here seem to forget.

Thank you, and I quite agree with you. I hesitate to say this but I believe many of our members are often tempted to fall into the "this is us and that is them" trap and think that "them" had a very particular upbringing which led to how they were, because it's much easier to think that then to accept that maybe they were brought up the same as us. Like the Nazis.

Again sad but true. The problem I've noticed with some of the views here (the board in general) is that people with a hardnosed stance and a closed mind tend to only look at and consider the information that supports their claim while completely ignoring anything that contradicts it.

[quote="mdrummer5, post:14, topic:230764"]
LOL... I know you're serious but there's a joke there somewhere. I agree. I've known quite a few homosexuals some I've considered friends and the only "agenda" any I've known had was to live comfortably in a society that will never fully accept them. Do I think it's wrong? Yes. However, I recognize two things, I will NEVER understand the mental torment that they go through and that it is not my place to judge them as so many here seem to forget.

Again sad but true. The problem I've noticed with some of the views here (the board in general) is that people with a hardnosed stance and a closed mind tend to only look at and consider the information that supports their claim while completely ignoring anything that contradicts it.

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I completely agree with you again also. There was a joke there but I was still being serious, people genuinely believe that :shrug: but ah well, you'll always have people like that.

And yes, I find it very frustrating that quite often on this forum I'm trying to have a serious debate in which I expect to be confronted with studies (so I can then show my own in return) to find that any studies they produce are so obviously from biased sources, to then be told that mine are part of some hidden agenda so are more invalid than theirs! I can prove theres are from biased sources, but all they have to say is "agenda" and they don't have to prove there is one.

Also I do try to bare in mind that this is an American forum, and I'm British. We take religion less seriously in general than Americans do - I don't mean that I think I am "less religious" than an American Catholic would be, but that there are much stronger feelings over the other side of the pond. Although it could just as easily swing the other way too, but seeing as you Americans have guns, I might not push my luck too often. :p

[quote="KaneKatholic, post:7, topic:230764"]
no she is just a beautiful creation of God that seemingly tries to seek him but is lost to him , she is no more than a lost sheep pray for her because she has the potentiality to be the greatest of saints like all of you here
St. Mary Magdalene, ORA PRO NOBIS

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She is not trying to seek God, but His enemy.

-Restituo

Just want to remind people that there isn't anything wrong with homosexuality as long as the person does not act on it. I'm tired of hearing so much homophobic hate on supposedly catholic websites.

[quote="child_of_God85, post:17, topic:230764"]
Just want to remind people that there isn't anything wrong with homosexuality as long as the person does not act on it. I'm tired of hearing so much homophobic hate on supposedly catholic websites.

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Catholic Teaching DOES state that SSA IS an "Inherently Disordered Condition." You CAN have SSA and Not Act on It and be a Catholic in Good Standing but that Still does not negate the fact that SSA is Inherently Wrong. Maybe not a Sin, but Still Wrong.:o

[quote="OrdinaryMelkite, post:18, topic:230764"]
Catholic Teaching DOES state that SSA IS an "Inherently Disordered Condition." You CAN have SSA and Not Act on It and be a Catholic in Good Standing but that Still does not negate the fact that SSA is Inherently Wrong. Maybe not a Sin, but Still Wrong.:o

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It's not "wrong". Wrong is an incredibly base and simplistic word that is much too harsh to be used in this context.

It is wrong for them to have homosexual sex because that falls under the bracket of premarital sex. Saying that it's inherently wrong suggests that there is a "right" human being and then there are "wrong" ones. You can't say that, can you? SSA is naturally occurring, therefore cannot be wrong. They're not faking SSA.

I find the Catholic Church's description that "SSA is disordered" a very good expression. Just like if someone was born blind, or born with some cardiac defect, those things can occur naturally, and are disordered states. Disordered means "ordered to a wrong end".

Saying that "SSA is inherently wrong" is not incorrect, either, but people tend to easily misunderstand this expression. SSA is wrong in the sense that the attraction is wrong, disordered, unhealthy, but not in the sense that the person deliberately chose to do something wrong. It's not the person who is wrong, but the attraction he/she is experiencing.

If I experienced attraction to my neighbor's wife, that would also be "disordered", even "wrong" in the sense that the attraction was wrong. However, I as a person did nothing wrong if I fought this attraction and chose not to act on it. It is quite laudable to fight any disordered attractions we may feel.

Our brothers and sisters who experience SSA are not alone in society, even if that particular kind of disordered attraction is less common than some others. Virtually 100% of people experience some form of disordered sexual urge and/or attraction during their lives. Some feel like watching pornography (especially men), others feel like dressing immodestly (especially women), yet others feel like having pre-marital sex, sleeping with someone else's spouse, with someone of their own gender, with a family member (incest), copulating with animals, feel the urge to masturbate, etc. These are all disordered urges and attractions, and we all have to control ourselves, not to act on disordered urges and attractions.

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