Latest on Trudeau government forcing charities to declare support for abortion


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He said he was told it would be a whipped vote — meaning Liberal MPs were to toe the party line — but that he stood in favour of the motion anyway, because he believed the Conservatives had crafted it in a straightforward way and that the Liberals had gone too far.

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-scott-simms-says-he-doesnt-regret-voting-for-tory-motion-on-summer-jobs?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1524182230


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Trudeau the hypocrite.


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What does abortion have to do with irrigation? Farmers use water not blood and baby body parts.

Third-party groups are also joining the fray, with the B.C. Civil Liberties Association seeking to join the challenge against the government

A small irrigation company near Brooks, Alta., filed a Charter challenge on Thursday arguing their rejection over refusing to sign the attestation was illegal on numerous grounds, including as a violation of their right to freedom of conscience and as an unlawful attempt “to subject private entities to the legal obligations of the Charter.” The challenge is being sponsored by the Alberta-based Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms.

Christian organizations are also preparing their cases.

“We are definitely in discussion with legal counsel and we have twenty-plus charities right now that are wanting to be part of a legal challenge,” said Barry Bussey, legal affairs director for the Canadian Council of Christian Charities. “We are basically looking at the various options as to what is the best road forward…I would anticipate that in the coming days we will be making some decisions.”

In its motion filed Friday, Toronto Right to Life highlights the evidence Wernick disclosed around the complaints, arguing they all came from one pro-choice lobby group.

Employment Minister Patty Hajdu had told the media in January that “last year we heard a whole bunch of complaints from citizens across Canada and organizations” about anti-abortion groups. Of the six examples Wernick included with her affidavit, all but one are a form letter from the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada, while the other links to a press release from that coalition.

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/legal-fight-over-summer-jobs-abortion-rights-clause-escalates-as-new-challenges-are-filed?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1525117888


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Canada’s former religious freedom ambassador, hired by the Stephen Harper government to preach Canada’s religious-freedom values abroad, came down hard on the Canada Summer Jobs program by observing it was something more reflective of a dictatorial regime.

Andrew Bennett, a devout Catholic and an ordained deacon whose envoy job ended with the election of the Trudeau Liberals, said the attestation process compels people who are not particularly religious to suddenly take a moral stand on a very divisive subject in order to get public funds to hire a student.

“Whether you’re a person of religious views or a person who just doesn’t want to have an opinion, the government through this action is compelling belief,” said Bennett.

“That has a certain totalitarian feel to it.”

He is not wrong.

When the Liberals pulled the pin on Bennett, they claimed to not want to single out any particular aspect of human rights for singular focus.

They had no problem, however, singling out the acceptance of abortion as the hook for summer-job funding.

It was not based on consultation or research.

It was just done.


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http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/resolutely-pro-choice-civil-liberties-group-joins-legal-challenge-against-summer-jobs-abortion-clause?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1526595808


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“We cannot compromise our human, Catholic, Christian values just to please the government,” Vienneau said.

He said the diocese usually hires 25 to 30 students each summer for a variety of projects such as office work and the upkeep of cemeteries.

“Of course we are distressed that we are losing all these summer jobs for the students. Some parishes will try to raise the money for some projects, but some will probably not be able to do that,” he said.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/archbishop-orders-n-b-churches-to-return-federal-cash-over-abortion-pledge?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1527270284


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Just to prevent the thread from closing:


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This situation seems pretty straight forward. If you are receiving government funds you should not be actively promoting policies that run counter to the laws of that government. In our diocese a few years ago a soup kitchen/homeless shelter had to return money given to them by the Church because they had signed a document with several other community groups in support of marriage equality. The Church certainly was justified in asking for the money back, but as you can imagine it created a huge PR problem in the community. The soup kitchen/homeless shelter was able to raise more money than they got from the diocese due to the public backlash on this. They raised so much money so quickly that the “joke” among the other local non-profits was, “Gee, can the Bishop say something bad about us, too?”


#31

Abortion isn’t a Charter right nor are there actual laws regulating abortion at the federal level. It’s practically an absence of a law. These charities and small businesses that are impacted aren’t campaigning against abortions. Why does an irrigation company have to support a non-existent Charter right?


#32

Yes, these sound like good arguments. I am going to give Trudeau’s cell a ring to see if he can explain. :iphone:


#33

This is Canada, not America. Things operate a bit differently. Good luck with your call, I’m sure he’s busy with his other messes to listen.


#34

Ah! Canada! Both sides of my family are from there and I still have a few distant relatives on P.E.I. and in Nova Scotia. I love my summer visits to Quebec City! :canada:


#35

Except when the law is unjust to the point of allowing the murder of babies. Then you fight that law.

Those dirty Catholics, how DARE they actually demonstrate that sin is bad. The kitchen / shelter was selfish the the poor that relied on them if they were willing to put their politics ahead of feeding those that needed food. They’re lucky that other people stepped up, or else they’d have had the hunger of the poor on their selfish hands.


#36

Actually, it was a lot of Catholics who contributed to helping this agency when they lost those Church funds. At one fund raising event, the line was out the door for those waiting to get in. That picture made the front page of the paper. You don’t see the line out the door for people waiting to get into Church nowadays.


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http://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-controversial-islamic-groups-receive-canada-summer-jobs-grants/wcm/b0440c75-c1b5-4b10-ac42-db22792b82be


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“No government should be using the power of the state to coerce a business to express agreement with government ideology in order to receive funding to help employ students,” said Kurt Feigel, owner of Saturn Machine Works, in a news release by Free To Do Business Canada Thursday.

“As a for-profit corporation, Saturn does not have a position or opinion on abortion or other political, moral, ethical, religious and social issues completely unrelated to its business,” the company’s judicial review application stated.


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