[quote=Vanessa]The original discussion is in family life, “Can CCD harm?” My bishop recently published an unfriendly policy for homeschoolers who want to receive the sacraments. Someone told me that 30 hours a year might not do much good, but neither will it harm. I don’t believe that. The forum thread discussion seemed to boil down to that it doesn’t matter what is true or what I believe, that obedience to the bishop is what matters.
I’ll take a look at the original thread so I can understand this better.
So, if you believe that following your bishop’s policy will cause moral harm to your child, what are one’s obligations to obedience?
I don’t care if it’s the pope; if I truly think something will cause moral harm to my child I will not comply. That said, I have “gone along” with a good number of things, but I have instructed my children in such a way that they can learn from them – therefore, I do allow my children to “be wronged” as it were (because with proper training I think it helps build character and if they respond well it brings them blessings), but if it puts them in a situation where it will likely lead them to sin, then I really don’t care what the Church says about it.
The Church herself tells us we are the primary educators of our children, but in a practical sense it seems the only time I hear that is in conjunction with a home project that the school tells me I “must” do. Makes me wonder what they mean by “primary educator” and if it means an underpaid person teaching in the primary grades. Seriously, though, if I am the primary educator, and I take that as I am responsible for those children, then it is I, not the bishop, who has the right of last refusal over what is done to them. If they want more than that, then they can “adopt” my children, pay their expenses, take personal responsibility for their success come what may and whatever they do – regardless of whether it breaks their rules – and we will all be part of a big happy commune.
I cannot accept responsibility for my children if I surrender the authority over them to others. When they are 18, then legally the Church may make a move for them without my consent.
And perhaps, how can you be sure that your conscience is formed properly and you’re not just trying to get your own way?
You really can’t. You have to do the best you can. I’ve learned the hard way that becoming confused and frustrated somehow morphs into “trouble maker” by the time it is perceived by Authority Figures. It can be very contentious, and the contention itself is sinful if reciprocated.
Sometimes I do “play the game” when I realize I’m licked, or that efforts to improve things are futile – but if it really boils down to my children being in jeopardy of moral harm, sorry but once I get that way I consider the situation suspect until proven benign.
Personally, I’m shocked that after the sexual abuse scandal that so many people still say you got to obey no matter what. So then, I wonder if I’m not just over-reacting to the scandal and causing unnecessary division.
I don’t know if you’re overreacting and have no opinion yet until I read the original thread, but I’ve found a strange combination of attitudes on this very forum, which sound schizophrenic when juxtaposed – even comments by individuals.
For example, the same people who unconditionally stick up for the clergy in any altercation with a poster here, but then turn right around and justify their own disobedience when it comes to certain matters of comportment during Mass. Once a poster quoted Teresa of Avila, who wrote to the effect that “even if the were a demon incarnate” she could not refuse obedience. Kind of like biting the hand that feeds you, I gathered. They pull that kind of thing out when telling me I’m wrong, but then tell me I’m nuts when I bring it up back to them, or ask them to take their own positions to their logical conclusions.
Their logical conclusions, when it comes to MY kids or MY situation, would pretty much have me shut up and take it like the abuse victims did for so many years. Luckily this mentality is starting to melt, as we continue to have respect for our priests, but take them off the pedestal we’ve allowed them to take for centuries.