[quote="mlamg, post:1, topic:309055"]
I'm totally confused now. Can someone explain what exactly the Catholic Church's stance is on homosexuality, as far as it is a chosen disorder or not? I thought that the catechism says it is a trial for them, which to me means not something chosen, but something given by God for His own reason, and that they are called to chastity.
The Pope's recent speech doesn't sound like that at all, it sounds to me like he's saying people are willingly turning from their natures to be homosexual. What??? :shrug:
"People dispute the idea that they have a nature, given to them by their bodily identity, that serves as a defining element of the human being," he said. "They deny their nature and decide that it is not something previously given to them, but that they make it for themselves."
"The manipulation of nature, which we deplore today where our environment is concerned, now becomes man's fundamental choice where he himself is concerned," he said.
Human Nature was created a certain way. Going all the way back to Genesis we read that God decided that it was not good that Adam should be alone. So what did he do? He created Eve. He did not create another man. He then told the two creatures to be fruitful and multiply. So right from the beginning we see the two-fold purpose of Human Sexuality: unitive and procreative. Pleasure was secondary.
After the Fall, Death, Decay and Disorder were introduced. This is the present state of affairs. Human Nature is damaged. Our Sexuality is damaged. Think of it this way. Some people are blessed with great bodies. Others are not. Why? It is a consequence of the Fall. Some people are blessed with great intellect. Others are not. Why? The Fall has damaged us. Some people are blessed with a healthy mind. Others suffer from a variety of mental illnesses. Why? Again, the Fall. You see the pattern. It applies to Human Sexuality. But you will notice something. There is an Order towards which Human Nature aspires. It is the Order that existed prior to the Fall. It is the Order of the Glorified Body: perfect Beauty, perfect Intellect, a healthy Mind, etc. Now, we all each have our own particular talent, our own particular sharing in the Beauty that existed prior to the Fall. But we are also all damaged and all have our own unique cross to bear in the pilgrimage of this life. The person with the perfect body might suffer from something that does not afflict the person who suffers from a damaged sexuality, and vice versa. This is something anyone who has gone through puberty and has attended high school, quickly learns.
The Church teaches that a homosexual “orientation” is not sinful but that only homosexual acts are sinful. A homosexual orientation is the result of the Fall. It is a cross. But it is no more a cross than a person who may have been born sterile or born a hermaphrodite, or born asexual, or a person who is born mentally or physically disabled, ect. We all have crosses to bear, but for some strange reason some homosexual activists would like the rest of us to believe that their crosses are somehow special. What’s even worse, there is now an attempt to FORCE the Church to lie about the truth. This will never happen because the gates of hell will never triumph but it is shameful and cruel that many innocent Catholics are being put to the test in this manner. And what’s truly ironic is that many homosexuals that I know became Catholic because of the Chruch’s teaching on Homosexuality. They were being starved by the lies of the prince of this world and had finally found liberation in the Church’s teaching.