Librarian Fired for Reporting Man Looking at Child Porn

Story here: calcatholic.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?id=fbca9f96-cd8f-4212-82d4-8caad96b9cad

This is happening in my area, but I haven’t heard anything about it! The article is vague, but it might be happening in my town!

I’m too angry to write, though what I would say about that Judi Hall makes it so I’ll have to attend Confession tomorrow.

I liked this paragraph from the story:

“The liberals who run the library system in America must stop violating the federal law because they regard child pornography as free speech,” said Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families. “All pornography is immoral, but possession of child pornography is a federal crime. No librarian should fear reporting child pornography to the police, but libraries that fail to report these crimes should be very afraid. Brenda Biesterfeld will get her job back, and more.”

It appears to me that the Librarians guild or whatever is far more interested in promoting the ACLU’s concepts of personal liberty than in protecting the children the library was built to serve.

He was breaking the law and he was doing on a county computer. This is ridiculous, and before anyone startes throwing the liberal word around, let me state here that I am one so hold off on that “all liberals” stuff - please. :o

Yep. The liberals are the problem today. And when they are called on the carpet for it, they start crying and call us mean. :mad:

They can do or say anything they want against other, but you dare not oppose them. Yeah right. :mad:

They should be reported to the Federal Authorities for aiding child porn. Shut them down now.

Don’t library computers have a blocking of porn on their computers? If not’ why not?

No. When the libraries (via the American Library Associan, I think?) tried to install filters, the ACLU sued (and won, of course :mad: ), citing “free speech” (because apparently it’s a constitutional right to look at porn whereever and whenever you want :rolleyes: ). This shouldn’t apply to child porn, of course, but w/o filters, you can access anything.

In Christ,

Ellen

In many cases, its a lack of funding or a lack of real need. For example, at my school the security is rather lax because nobody uses the internet for personal uses. We are only allowed to be on sites that we have express permission to be online, and for that particular session only. Also, if that particular library is having troubles keeping its doors open, they might not be preoccupied with making sure that their computers have the latest filtering software.

child porn is considered ‘free speech?’:frowning: I have heard it all now.:mad: :mad: :mad:

That is a lovely picture of Blessed Mother…I feel that is how I would picture her in my mind’s eye.

No, child porn is not supposed to apply, just good old fashioned wholesome “adult porn” :rolleyes: . But, like I said, since filters aren’t allowed, child porn can be accessed. (Interesting, although the Supreme Court has ruled that child porn isn’t free speech-mostly b/c its manufacturing involves sexual abuse of children, they have ruled that “similuated” child porn is ok-that is, if it’s not real children, but just computerized to look like kids. Sick. :mad: But after Roe v. Wade, nothing surprises me anymore).

My dh and I were talking about this a few minutes ago (he wanted to know what I was typing), and he brought up an interesting point: If this guy had kiddy porn on his home computer, why was he at the library looking at it? The only logical explanation was he was hoping a child would see it, and/or he could further his “jollies” by watching the kids at the library at the same time. :mad:

In Christ,

Ellen

I see a kind of twisted justice on this one. Free speech does not allow for inciting to riot. By that same reasoning child porn eventhough it’s computerized incites pedophilia, yes? no?

The Tulare County Board of Supervisors today said officials had “legitimate business reasons” to fire Lindsay librarian Brenda Biesterfeld and that her dismissal had nothing to do with her reporting a child-pornography incident at the library.

In a statement, the supervisors said they were legally prohibited from disclosing the “business reasons.”

“The fact that these two events occurred within a short time does not mean they were connected,” the statement said. “However, we appreciate that the public perception may be to the contrary.”

The statement, passed out at the end of a four-hour closed meeting, said the county would launch an independent investigation of the incident, supervised by a judge.

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Lol, well, if that is true, some manager certainly needs a bit of help in the timing department.

Of course, my work experience has shown me it’s probably a complete fabrication. I remember regional managers encouraging me to create fake evidence to fire people for illegitimate reasons. It happens all the time. All you have to do is have several documented instances of work rule violations or poor performance, pencil whip a few performance tracking reports and make sure all the people involved in the termination are on the same page (e.g. don’t accidentally sing praises about the person.)

I’ve had to move on from my company because of this.

That is true. I graduated from library school almost two years ago, and I can tell you that “freedom to read” is a code word for . I was taught that even if someone is looking at porn or bombmaking stuff on a computer (paid with taxpayer money) that you can’t complain since you shouldn’t be monitoring someone’ computer use in the first place. Of course, if you’re in a public place on a public machine, it’s not unreasonable for someone to see what’s on your screen. I believe that federal money for libraries comes with the caveat that you have to have filters, but libraries in rich areas can reject the money and the filters. I don’t think most librarians are very radical, but the ALA is no friend of pro-family people.

I was going to mention that the original article didn’t seem very objective - there was no explanation from the employer as to why the person was fired. Hopefully we’ll get more details on their justification as time goes on.

isn’t there a public right to know? since the board is part of the local govrnmnent it would seem that they have to present the reasons on demand. no secrets…at least there are not supposed to be.:smiley:

The original article was actually a press release from a political pressure group. California Catholic Daily published the whole thing, undigested and uninvestigated. Its not the first time they have disappointed me.

Hopefully we’ll get more details on their justification as time goes on.

We will probably have to keep checking the news services, or rely upon CAF members who live in the Visalia area. Stories such as this initially make headlines, but the followup typically is less sensational and is deemed less “newsworthy”.

Oh, the initial hearing for the man who was arrested came to a quick halt. He is deaf and muted and has a history of developmental disabilities. The court is wants to determine his competency to stand trial.
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