as a general blanket rule, is it a sin to live with a couple who is married civilly?
I don’t see why this should be a problem. The couple is married. Unless one or both were catholics who did not receive dispensation to be married outside the Church and/or one or both had prior marriages that were not annulled the Church would consider their marriage valid.
Why would someone be living with this couple? If the single person were renting a room from them, then there would be no problem.
In this case, the couple is Catholic and didn’t receive a dispensation.
The single person is related to one of the spouses and is welcomed to stay over in the separate room.
I’m assuming this married couple is to be considered to be sinners. According to texts Jesus associated with sinners. What better way to evangelize than to spend more time with those one views as needing saving and treating them charitably? Blessings to all.
My question is, what sin can the person staying with the couple be guilty of?
Wouldn’t it mean that I’m condoning their choice to be married civilly
No. Don’t be scrupulous.
Yes, you are condoning their sin. In fact, the Church teaches not to visit the houses of people living in a public state of adultery (as your roommates) unless to call them to repentance and teach them the Catholic faith. It’s sad to see so many people misinformed. When Jesus ate with sinners he instructed them to repent and get on the path to salvation, speaking clearly and directly. The Church teaches that you may not live with them.
:eek:Nope, I think you have totally gone beyond OCD on this one.
From Cardinal Burke:
"If homosexual relations are intrinsically disordered, which indeed they are — reason teaches us that and also our faith — then, what would it mean to grandchildren to have present at a family gathering a family member who is living [in] a disordered relationship with another person?
We wouldn’t, if it were another kind of relationship — something that was profoundly disordered and harmful — we wouldn’t expose our children to that relationship, to the direct experience of it. And neither should we do it in the context of a family member who not only suffers from same-sex attraction, but who has chosen to live out that attraction, to act upon it, committing acts which are always and everywhere wrong, evil."
From the Lapide Bible commentary on Zacchaeus:
“We cannot doubt that Christ as soon as He entered the house of Zacchaeus began, according to His custom, to teach and exhort both Zacchaeus himself and those of his household, to faith and repentance, and, if they repented, to promise them grace, righteousness, and salvation. He would also urge upon them contempt of riches and the world, and the acceptance of poverty and evangelical perfection, by following Him and giving their goods to the poor, that they might receive treasure in heaven, and a hundredfold in this life. S. Luke, for the sake of brevity, says nothing of this; but from what follows, and from what he had frequently said before, especially xviii. 22, of the custom of Christ to teach and preach, He leaves it to be understood. For by these words of Christ Zacchseus was plainly converted to faith, repentance, poverty, and contempt of riches and the world.”
If you would not allow a so-called “Catholic” family member of yours into your home that is in an adulterous relationship, why would you allow others? Are we not all children of God? If they were not Catholic then it shouldn’t be a problem, but your duty is to call them to conversion.
If that’s your concern you could mention that you hope they reconcile with the Church and have their marriage recognized by the Church and then leave it at that. That way they know you aren’t condoning their sin, but aren’t hostile to them, either.
No more than you would be condoning any other immoral or illicit acts that they may be guilty of. If one of them masturbates, does the act of you staying with them condone the act? Of course not. Their sin is theirs to be settled. If we avoided everyone who is guilty of a sinful act in order to avoid condoning it, we would find ourselves to be very lonely people.
You are wrong.
Olive, given your ongoing struggles with scrupulosity, I suggest you talk about any specific situation in your life with your trusted priest or nun friends you have talked about in other posts.
You will get answers that run the spectrum here, including whackadoodle answers that do not accurately represent the Catholic Church’s teaching.
The answer to your question is that no, there is no “blanket rule”. In specific situations there might be very good reasons for finding other living arrangements while in other situations it may be prudent to accept the offer.