Luke 13: Abraham?


#1

“Depart from me, all you evildoers!’
And there will be wailing and grinding of teeth
when you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
and all the prophets in the kingdom of God
and you yourselves cast out.”

Does this tell us that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have been denied salvation?


#2

No, notice the preposition Jesus uses to refer to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets.

Jesus says they are ***in ***the kingdom of God. In the context of the parable passage, this would indicate that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets are inside the house. In other words, a person will see these people ***in ***the house and weep because he/she is not with them.

Notice verse 29 talks about being in the kingdom of God as being with God.


#3

Wow! I read this so many times and missed “in”. Golly, thanks for clueing me in!


#4

Do we have to know the prophets like we know Jesus?


#5

Well the idea behind the parable is that you will not get into the kingdom of God by simply being associated with holy people. Knowing the Lord (authentic discipleship) is more than simply knowing about him or his people. Also, one would not be required to know all the guests in the Master’s house prior to entering the Master’s house. Otherwise, you would also have to know the people at table from the east/west/north/south.

That being said, one of the best ways to know/encounter God is through his revelation, which includes the prophetic books.


#6

Hi!
No. Rather it tells a different story; Jesus explained that God is a God of the Living not of the dead:

26 And as concerning the dead that they rise again, have you not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spoke to him, saying: I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You therefore do greatly err. (St. Mark 12:26-27)

Those who are reject by Christ will witness God’s Grace but will not take part of it since they are outcasts.

Maran atha!

Angel


#7

This is correct and a very good explanation.

Though the text has an application to all believers, the original audience for this verse was focused primarily on those of Jewish background.

The Afterlife, or “World to Come” in Judaism (commonly referred to as “Olam Ha-Ba”) is primarily understood as “being gathered to their people” or “ancestors” for the righteous. (2 Kings 22:20) For the sinners it is spoken of as being “cut off from their people.”–Exodus 31:14.

Jewish hearers (and readers) would understand Jesus’ words at Luke 13:27-30 as part of this same idiomatic paradigm common in Jewish theology. Being told to “go away from me, all you evildoers” in verse 27 is the separation or being “cut off” from their ancestors, “Abraham and Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God.”–Verse 28.

Then something totally unheard of and unexpected happens. “People will come from east and west, from north and south, and will eat in the kingdom of God.” (Verse 29) In other words, Gentiles or non-Jews will be “gathered to their [the Jews’] people” or “ancestors” in place of many Jews who expect to be there. God will gather Gentiles in their place to “eat” a meal with Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, so to speak. The “eating” refers to sharing in the rewards of the Afterlife or Olam Ha-Ba.

But the example goes even farther. “Indeed, some are last who will be first, and some are first who will be last.” (Verse 30) Anyone who is now serving God, Jew or Gentile, who “expects” to be in that kingdom can likewise find themselves “on the outside looking in,” as ScriptStudent put it. And some who are told that they can’t get into the kingdom will find that they will be there. “Some [who are told that they] are last…will be first [to be gathered into the kingdom], and some [who believe that they] are first [in line to be gathered in]…will be last.”


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