This may or may not help.
Some years ago I attended the funreal of an aunt who was Lutheran, God rest her soul.
After the funeral there was a luncheon. There was one seat left in the dining room. It was next to me and the minister came in and sat there.
He seemed like a very nice snincere man. He found out I was Catholic and of course that meant I had to hear what his beef is with Catholicism. First up, he said that he was very disappointed that Pope JPII declared that women can not be ordained. His reasoning was that this would make reunion with Lutherans impossible. I did not respond. I just kind of nodded. Yeah, that does make reunion tougher. This was not a place for a theological debate.
Then he said that he was disappointed that JPII denied a request from Lutherans for intercommunion, made during the beginning of his papacy. He wanted to know what I thought about it. I wanted to answer, but not get into it. So I said, “It is a matter of Orders”.
He thought about that and said that within his Lutheran synod whenver the topic of Holy Orders comes up, people become “apoplectic”. Some see the need and others deny they exist.
Some time before this a woman Lutheran minister was outraged that anyone (read Catholic) would question the validity of someone else’s Orders.
The male minister realized what I was saying. No sacrament of Holy Orders equals no Eucharist. He got it. Nevertheless, his own denomination does not agree on the need or existance of Orders. He did not make any argument along the lines of they can have a valid Eucharist without Orders, which I thought was coming and I wanted to avoid anyway.
How are Catholics supposed to react? Are we supposed to believe they have valid Orders when they do not believe it themsleves? If all of a sudden Lutherans become clear on this does that mean all their ministers have valid Orders after not believing in this sacrament?
Rome will never recognize Lutheran ordinations, because of his opening statement. They have been ordaining women who preside over their communion services. Women can not be priests. John Paul II wrote Priesly Ordination to settle this once and for all. The pope has spoken.
Lutherans can believe what they like. They should not expect Catholics to agree with them. They separated themselves and went their own way and persist in their doctrines.