[quote=kp1]I find it very interesting when I read or hear of Lutheran and former-Lutheran protestant’s surprise when they see their own church falling apart. Many Lutherans are very steadfast on how great Lutheran was to point out the misconduct in the RC at the time of the reformation which lead to his big break. Not once have I heard these same Protestants note that these misconducts where human misconducts not church doctrine (ecept the former-protestants once they learn the history and truth).
Jesus said “Not even the gates of Hell will prevail against my church”. He did not promise this same protection to the dissentant protestants. We have the papacy to keep the RC faithful to the Holy Trinity’s stance on matters of faith and morals. Even though there were a few very human (weak to the human nature or being less than good examples to live by) popes in our past, they never changed the RC’s stance on faith and morals.
What Luther himself saw after several years of his new church, was the inability to keep to the moral and faithful code. He had opened the door for human weakness to dictate their faith to what seemed applicable to them, to what was more comfortable or just plain easier. Why would this come about? There was no one to keep it in check! No one person or group to be the official head to make sure they did not falter.
As we have see, familiarity breeds acceptance. The Old Testiment rules about staying with in your own group, not intermarrying with foreign groups had some basis to the rule. They knew the faith and moral codes would get “watered down” inorder to not offend the new parties. Now look at Hollywood and it’s blatant disregard for matters of faith and morality. It started way back with one director or producer trying to take something just a little further for shock value, Marylin Monroe and a little dress. Now our prime-time programing is not child-friendly. We come to accept these bouts of immorality because we have been conditioned to it one baby step at a time. Now I showed this analogy not to prolong my reply, but to point out how the Lutheran Church, as Luther intended, will fall due to no checks or balance organization to keep it in communion with Christ. Can they return to Luther’s plan? I think the answer is no, once you set something in motion and it goes off on a little tangent, it is nearly impossible to bring it back (it is simple physics).
I predict with this new doctrinal vote coming this fall within the Lutheran Church (to allow or disallow gay marraige) more Lutherans will become disenchanted with their faith. They will become untrusting to a fatih that can bend it’s once steadfast rules to the whims of society.
Christ started a Monarchy not a Democracy!
This actually has a lot to do with why I came to the Church. I had spent a lot of time around Catholics, but still thought the Church was wrong. Nevertheless, I liked the liturgy and the Sacraments, so I started looking into the Lutheran church as a place to go. Once I started researching it, I became very uneasy about the gay marriage stuff. I soon found I’d have a hard time finding a church that followed Christ’s moral teachings unless I went to the Catholic Church. That is what got me started at investigating the truth or fallacy of the Church.