March for Marriage to protest Obergefell decision


#1

The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) is holding a March for Marriage on June 25 to commemorate the anniversary of Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court decision that struck down state laws that recognized marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

Participants will gather near the Capitol and march to the Supreme Court building “to protest the illegitimate redefining of marriage in our nation’s laws,” according to NOM.

“We’re also protesting President Obama’s illegal and outrageous attempt to redefine gender,” NOM said in a statement. “And we’re marching to demand that Congress enact laws to protect supporters of marriage from discrimination and persecution by the government.”

catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=28639


#2

Ahh, yes, the Supreme Court decision that was thrust upon us.


#3

So…these people are going to go protest a bunch of strangers who happened to get married over the last twelve months?

It’s been a year. The sky hasn’t fallen. Just random couples got married. The horror.

As for them tacking on the gender thing to Obergefell…huh? That’s like deciding to protest abortion at a pro-gun rally. The two aren’t related.


#4

Yes, it’s called exercising your First Amendment Rights as a U.S. citizen.


#5

Marriage Unique For a Reason website is an “initiative” of the USSCB. Here is a blog post:

On June 25, 2016, the day before the one year anniversary of the erroneous and unjust Supreme Court decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, a rally and March for Marriage will be held in Washington, D.C. The event is meant to highlight the importance of the unique meaning of marriage to society and the importance of mothers and fathers for children.
Participants will be gathering at the reflecting pool in front of the Capitol building around 11:30 a.m. for the program, and the march to the Supreme Court will begin at 1:00 p.m.
Please consider joining the March for Marriage 2016 to witness to the continued importance of authentic marriage!

marriageuniqueforareason.org/2016/06/21/march-marriage-2016/


#6

So is this going to be like the March For Life?


#7

That’s all well and good, but I’m still unclear on

  1. what exactly they’re protesting? All the horror stories we were warned about never came to fruition.

  2. why is a transgender issue tacked on?


#8

What “horror stories” according to you, were proposed/claimed would happen and have not happened?


#9

No, no. Just the gays. And the trans for good measure.


#10

Churches forced to participate comes to mind.


#11

There have been churches forced to participate in same sex unions? Please enlighten us…


#12

Exactly.


#13

Did anybody propose that in the year they follows the Supreme Court ruling that that would happen? Just because claimed they would happen, doesn’t necessarily mean that they thought it would happen soon, but that in the future it is not inconceivable that there could be pressure put in Churches. I remember reading something on the Catholic News Agency website about Little Sisters of the Poor, the US government and the HHS mandate and who would of thought the government would would be involved in a lawsuit against Sisters over the issue of contraception etc…


#14

Did anybody propose that in the year that follows the Supreme Court ruling that that would happen? It doesn’t necessarily mean that it was thought it would happen soon, but that in the future it is not inconceivable that there could be pressure put on Churches. I remember reading something on the Catholic News Agency website about Little Sisters of the Poor, the US government and the HHS mandate and who would of thought the government would be involved in a lawsuit against Sisters over the issue of contraception etc…


#15

For something like that to be conceivable you need precedent. There isn’t any.

Now, if the State forced churches to marry interracial couples after Loving, you’d be on to something. But alas, it isn’t so.

The only examples I see brought up (including here at CAF) of “adverse effects” of Obergefell almost always have to do with a private business (like the Klein Family and their bakery). But even that doesn’t demonstrate any adverse effects of Obergefell. The perceived problem there isn’t two gay strangers getting married, it’s local accommodation laws. A compromise should be made in those instances, from both parties.

So, again, I can’t figure out what it is they’re protesting, or why the trans issue was randomly brought into it. Besides, NOM isn’t exactly a pillar of morality. Aren’t they a designated hate group due to their habit of lying and spreading misleading information?


#16

They’re protesting a U.S. Supreme Court decision they disagree with.


#17

It’s like a river back, 1 person no longer takes the time to hold it up, and they say “see, nothing happened, it’s all good” then that person encourages another person and then another, then they are all saying “It’s been over a year now, the river hasn’t flooded the banks, just people with less needless work.” encouraging even more to follow them, then pretty soon only a handful are trying to hold up the river bank, and then while weakened, the time comes when she finally collapses.

A year is certainly not enough time to reap what you have sowed, especially when you are breaking down the traditional family and persecuting all those who hold true to marriage and the family.

Looking at the moral decay of society, especially in the west (Abortion, Same Sex Marriage, Adultery, Fornication, Promiscuity etc etc), all I ask is be patient. I will try to make poor reparation to Mary for my sins and the worlds, but it will only hold it out for so long if society keeps going the way it is going.

God Bless You

Thank you for reading
Josh


#18

What a thing to have to defend. Marriage between a man and a woman.:rolleyes: It just shows what we’ve come to. Things aren’t improving at all by any means. We’re severely regressing. In other countries, such as the places where Mother Teresa visited, where they actually do hard work and don’t have time for all of this playtime, there is poverty, yes, but at least they seem to have faith and morals. Their worry is enough food, clothing, shoes on their feet. Think of the starving little African children. Over here, we worry about which bathroom we should use.:rolleyes:


#19

What was the precedent to try and force Little Sisters of the Poor to sign a poor so contraception etc. could be given to their employees?

There are people who disagree that Churches would be pressured/forced to marry same-sex couples, but look for example what the following two people say:

University of Illinois law professor Robin Fretwell Wilson says it’s possible that institutions will be pressured to give ground on gay marriage by federal authorities (such as the Internal Revenue Service, which could take away an institution’s tax-exempt status), state civil rights commissions or private lawsuits. She notes, for example, that the federal government now reads its laws against sex discrimination “to include sexual orientation discrimination, which opens a whole layer of potential threat” to religious organizations.

And yet she also says it is possible that all sides will “be able to live in peace,” noting a recent compromise in Utah, “where you saw an extension of gay rights in exchange for religious protections.”

pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/26/how-a-supreme-court-decision-for-gay-marriage-would-affect-religious-institutions/

Look what Justice John Robert about tax exemption institutions: washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/06/26/here-are-the-key-excerpts-on-religious-liberty-from-the-supreme-courts-decision-on-gay-marriage/


#20

Canada has had same sex marriage since 2005. Is there any data you can point to that will show that it has damaged the country or marriage? Or do we have to wait centuries before we see the damage?


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