Mary as "New Eve"


#1

I have to give a talk to a confirmation group in a few weeks. The topic is Jesus as “New Adam” and Mary as “New Eve”. Surprisingly all of the books I have do not explicitly talk about this. Any scripture verses or other books to look at?

Thanks


#2

Hi vinniesdad,

I would suggest Mary The Second Eve by John Henry Newman. It is available from Catholic Answers.


#3

With a title like that how could I go wrong. Thanks, I will get that ASAP!!!


#4

Check out these tracts and articles by Catholic Answers:

catholic.com/search.asp?searchType=file&target=New+Eve


#5

[quote=vinniesdad]I have to give a talk to a confirmation group in a few weeks. The topic is Jesus as “New Adam” and Mary as “New Eve”. Surprisingly all of the books I have do not explicitly talk about this. Any scripture verses or other books to look at?

Thanks
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Go to the early Fathers.


#6

[quote=banjo]Hi vinniesdad,

I would suggest Mary The Second Eve by John Henry Newman. It is available from Catholic Answers.
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This is a GREAT source. Go for it.


#7

In this short article
geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/9587/maryark.html
Fr. Antoine Bakh a Catholic Maronite Priest
presents the central Biblical references for why catholics think she is the New Eve. St Irenaneanus wrote some very early writings as Mary as the New Eve pretty indepth marin theology for such an early church period. No midevil interpretation here. I believe even earlier than that St Justin makes a similar comparison but Irneaus digs a little deeper than Justin.


#8

Look up Hans Urs Von Balthasar and the Marian Principle on Google you’ll get great material for a New Eve talk.

God Bless


#9

My memory is kinda failing, but I am 90% sure Scott Hahn’s book “hail holy queen does”. But even if it doesn’t it is one of the best books I have read on mary. it totally breaks everything down.


#10

Try this web site:

lots of good information here:

scripturecatholic.com/blessed_virgin_mary.html


#11

also, here’s another good one:

kensmen.com/catholic/mary.html#1


#12

I have a book published in 1962 written by Frank Duff, founder of the Legion of Mary, entitled Mary Shall Reign. Here is a passage, which I think beautifully describes Mary’s role as the new Eve:

God modeled Redemption on the lines of the Fall. As the Fathers of the Church, and every teacher in the Church, have put it, He made Redemption exactly reverse the Fall. Everything that was in the fall He took and turned it backwards. Though Eve sinned first, still it was not in Eve that mankind fell but in Adam. Adam was the single source and the head of the human race. Eve herself was taken physically out of him (Genesis 2:23). It was his behavior that was going to ruin mankind. If Eve alone had fallen, and Adam had not, mankind would not have been involved in the Fall. Yet it was because Eve enticed Adam into sin that Adam sinned and mankind fell. The part of Eve was crucial. The serpent approached her and won her over. Eve then caused Adam to fall. It was in Adam that men fell. But the Scriptural insistence on the agency of Eve in the transaction can convey no other meaning than that Adam would not have fallen but for her. Eve is exhibited as the mediatrix of the fall and of the fatal consequences that followed it. The parallel between those circumstances and the Redemption is so complete that it is evident that the one was patterned on the other; that God intended Redemption to be a detailed reversal of the Fall; that the Redemption was to be what it has been styled: The Divine Revenge.

In the restoration the New Adam and the New Eve reverse the part that Adam and Eve played in the original tragedy. Mary was drawn spiritually out of Jesus through the Immaculate Conception, that is by the application of her future merits. The Angel comes to her as the serpent came to Eve- on the same day of the week, it is said- and he proposes the remedial plan. She believes the good message as Eve believed the evil one. She accepts what is proposed to her. She draws Christ down upon the earth and commits Him to His mission which is terribly consummated on Calvary. And there she stands, herself almost dead, but unfainting, unfaltering, offering her Seed in the sacrifice which crushed the head of the serpent, as was promised ages before in the Garden of Even.

Mankind arose in Christ and not in Mary. It was Our Lord who redeemed us by His life and death. But it would not have happened except for Mary. We must minutely analyze this tremendous parallel. Its importance cannot be overestimated. For in the operation of Eve in the Fall we have a Biblical blueprint for detailed diagram of the part played by Mary in salvation. The Fall was the first Type on the Old Testament. These types were in the Old Testament what the parables were in the New Testament. It would be incorrect to regard them as being no more than picturesque images. They were sketches of the future Jesus and Mary, each containing some fragment of doctrine, so that when all of them are put together, the result is startling as a picture of what was to come.


#13

[quote=vinniesdad]I have to give a talk to a confirmation group in a few weeks.** The topic is Jesus as “New Adam” and Mary as “New Eve”. **Surprisingly all of the books I have do not explicitly talk about this. Any scripture verses or other books to look at?

Thanks
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Hi ! If you do this, how screwed up will the confirmation class be? Whoever asked you to do this is really detracting or defeating the reason these people are in a Confirmation Class in the First place.

  1. You don’t know what your talking about, so it will served only to confuse them.
  2. I am 73 and have taught these classes for over ten years, and never have I seen nor heard such a thing as Jesus was a New Adam aand Mary was a New Eve! This soundss like New Age Garbage

If one of my grand children was to be taught that stuff, I’d pull them out, pronto! Jesus was not Adam, that is quite simple…

If you were a son of mine, I’d say, “Pull out, dont mix up the poor pepole”. Are you going to agree to stand uup in public and endanger the sould of a “class” by substituting “New Age Garbage” for what the Magesterium has decided should be taught?

Sorry to be blunt, but it looks like you got hooked, line and sinker, with a lot of “Fluff”.


#14

Exporter,

your post is blatantly ignorant.

here is what the Catechism says:

#411 The Christian tradition sees in this passage an announcement of the “New Adam” who, because he “became obedient unto death, even death on a cross”, makes amends superabundantly for the disobedience, of Adam.[305] Furthermore many Fathers and Doctors of the Church have seen the woman announced in the “Proto-evangelium” as Mary, the mother of Christ, the “new Eve”. Mary benefited first of all and uniquely from Christ’s victory over sin: she was preserved from all stain of original sin and by a special grace of God committed no sin of any kind during her whole earthly life.[306]

#511 The Virgin Mary “co-operated through free faith and obedience in human salvation” (LG 56). She uttered her yes “in the name of all human nature” (St. Thomas Aquinas, S Th III, 30, 1). By her obedience she became the new Eve, mother of the living.

maybe you still have a lot to learn and should get a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.


#15

[quote=vinniesdad]I have to give a talk to a confirmation group in a few weeks. The topic is Jesus as “New Adam” and Mary as “New Eve”. Surprisingly all of the books I have do not explicitly talk about this. Any scripture verses or other books to look at?

Thanks
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You can read Irenaeus “Against Heresies”. He talks about Mary as the New Eve a little. But since you do not have the time to read all of the “Against Heresies” here are the parts that speak of it.

Book III Chapter XXII
newadvent.org/fathers/0103322.htm

Book V Chapter XIX
newadvent.org/fathers/0103519.htm

Here is an article from “This Rock” that talks about Mary as the new Eve.

catholic.com/thisrock/2003/0312sbs.asp

I hope these help. It is all I could come up with.


#16

[quote=vinniesdad]I have to give a talk to a confirmation group in a few weeks. The topic is Jesus as “New Adam” and Mary as “New Eve”. Surprisingly all of the books I have do not explicitly talk about this. Any scripture verses or other books to look at?

Thanks
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three helpful links I hope:

udayton.edu/mary/meditations/neweve.html

The first insight regarding the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mother of Our Lord Jesus Christ, which was given by the Church Fathers was the vision of Mary as the New Eve.

christendom-awake.org/pages/marian/newman1.html
Cardinal Newman

www.cin.org/jp960918.html**
John Paul II - Mary as the New Eve


#17

I did some searching and found some more church fathers that draw a comparison between Eve and Mary

Turtulan.
Read Chapter 17 in the link below.
newadvent.org/fathers/0315.htm

Justin Martyr
Read Chapter 100 in the link below.
newadvent.org/fathers/0128.htm

Here is also some more John Henry Newman that you can read.
christendom-awake.org/pages/marian/newman1.html


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