Mary Never Truly Died


#102

Dormition, meaning gone to sleep, is a fancy word for, well, sleeping.
Jesus said his friend Lazarus was sleeping [in death]. Paul referred to disciples “some of whom have fallen asleep [in death]”. Ps 13:3 likewise.
Therefore a non-Catholic Bible reader is entitled to read “dormition” as “dead”. Any other interpretation will be more complex.
There’s a reason why we use the phrase “the simple truth”.


#103

Mary can be called Jerusalem since she was a dwelling of God. (Psalm 132:13 the Psalm number might be different in different Bibles.)


#104

The Eastern tradition is unambiguous in this matter. Dormition is simply a euphemism for death. It was used by Saint Paul to describe death and it is used by Eastern Christians today. ( we often hear that so-and-so so “fell asleep in the Lord”.


#105


#106

Here is your own reply below ,which your contradicting now

So it seems ,than why are you suggesting such things


#107

Do you mean that a Catholic reader of the Bible would not read it in the same way?


#108

@tafan2

She wanted to imitate Jesus in every way also in death so the the merits of Christ will be although more given to her children .As she was free from original sin ,she died and woke up heaven ,on this occasion.Jesus him self has descended to take her body and soul revealed to many saints through the centuries, She died not because of original sin but because of the Love of God and to be united with Him in Heaven.

@Angel_Gabriel
Interesting post

also in her Assumption

**[966] "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."508 The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son’s Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:

In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.509

. . . she is our Mother in the order of grace

[967] By her complete adherence to the Father’s will, to his Son’s redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church’s model of faith and charity. Thus she is a “preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church”; indeed, she is the “exemplary realization” ( typus )510 of the Church.


#109

Ok, thanks. I was confused.


#111

C.E. is used for Common Era. As noted, it’s used especially by writers who want to avoid bringing religious notation into their wrtings.
Works for me; neutral territory.

Bunny rabbit?


#112

First, my statement stands as written. That statement was based on citations of death being likened to sleep by inspired writers of God’s word and by Jesus himself. There are others. In tje NJB.

Second, it has been my experience that a Catholic reader will be confused- as we see in this very thread- by the terms used by his Church.

Read the original Bull. Does the Pope say she died? Didn’t die? If she ‘slept’ does he mean that in another way but the Bible’s- and Jesus’- way? If so, does he explain the difference?


#113

It’s a cat. Also:


#114

That’s better than r/whoosh


#115

How about her girdle and veil ?


#116

But those aren’t the same as corporal relics. The story is that the apostles were gathered together mourning her death. Thomas who was, surprise , late again, arrived 3 days later in time to see her assumed and she left behind her girdle .


#117

Yeah…kinda like xmas. :roll_eyes:


#118

Actually, chi is a Greek letter and stands for Christ.

XMass does not remove Christ, it keeps it.


#119

In a kinda esoteric and hidden way , so it serves its purpose for those bother by that name.


#120

To those that know, it is funny.


#121


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