Is masterbating sinful, like say you masterbated but disnt spill sperm is that still considered a sin and with out any lust ful thoughts just a clear mind.Also say you ejaculated but it was pre ejaclution is that at least sinful or mortal sin?
The masturbation itself, the act itself is a sin. You say you had no “lustful thoughts” but you were still gratifying yourself.
I believe the Church sees masturbation as a grave form of self-abuse that requires immediate confession prior to receiving the Eucharist.
I didn’t masterbate i just asking
I don’t see why it would be.
For some reason, everyone here thinks that if you enjoy yourself and have a little fun, you’re a terrible, terrible person, unfit to eat a Eucharist.
I can’t see any logical reason why a God would want someone to pump out as many babies as humanly possible, and the implication of this is that there is also no logical reason for every single sperm cell to never be wasted.
Strangely enough, “enjoying oneself and having a little fun” too often ends up being sinful :shrug:. If masturbation is one’s idea of fun, of course we will consider it sinful. Going out for a hike, on the other hand, is benign. I guess what I am saying is if one’s idea of fun and enjoyment is sin, of course we will say it is wrong.
As per your last paragraph, I cannot tell if it was tongue-in-cheek or if you are being serious.
There is fun stuff that is not sinful I.e. going for a jog but masturbation is just gratifying the flesh. The question is how can you go there without a pornographic thought life?
Yes, masterbation is a grave sin. Sperm spilling or not, it is still masterbation. Lustful thought are irrelevant. The fact that you are masterbating, is a selfish act. It is all about you, you, you. God specifically made sexual acts to be unified between a man and woman under a covenant with God.(AKA marriage). Masturbation is completely twisted. I have been caught up on this and have been progressing. I am on my longest streak of not masturbating right now for about 2 months straight. I pray that you find God’s love because whether you find it or not, He still loves you. God Bless You.
I agree with micro here. According to Catechism, masturbation is sinful. Regardless of having any “lustful thoughts” the act is a selfish form of being to wrapped up in oneself. One should be able to see out of oneself to give to others and to put others before oneself. Occupy yourself with acts of charity or good spiritual reading. Get involved in youth groups or other community service projects. In this way, you’ll be more open and available to give and put others first before yourself. Serving others less fortunate than yourself is serving Christ. Another reason is that we’re taught that our bodies is the Temple of the Holy Spirit and masturbation violates this Temple. We are supposed to treat our bodies with dignity and respect.
I would really like to against the tide here…
How possibly could Masturbation be a sin… Goodness me…
it’s a natural body instinct … like could sneezing be a sin ? nope…
Because it’s a natural body function… could breaking wind in church be a sin ? Nope…
Because it’s a natural body function… How many young men need to commit suicide
because they have it drummed into there head that they have committed a sin ?
What about wet dreams ? is that a sin ? … Nope because it’s a natural body function…
how about giving young people a break and say… go for it buddy… just make sure you control the urges and the urges dont control you.
Here’s what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says
2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. “Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.”
“The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of “the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.”
Notice that masturbation is held as “intrinsically and gravely disordered action” regardless of the presence/absence of ejaculation. Also, I can’t imagine who could masturbate without lust. The mere fact that one is using the sexual faculty for selfish enjoyment (which is contrary to its purpose) is already lust by definition:
2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.
Even if one clears his mind of OTHER lustful thoughts, masturbation is already a lustful action.
oh for goodness sake! Men are like dogs in heat when it comes to this… Seriously, do something else with your time! There is wayyy too much time on your hands :rolleyes:
Well..... maybe when boys get Circumcised the should cut the whole thing off because thats the only solution.....
What do you mean “natural body function?” Ask yourself in all honesty what is the purpose of the REPRODUCTIVE organs - what God designed and intended them for - and the answer is that they are for intercourse between married couples. It is not natural to use it outside of this intended purpose. Bestiality is unnatural. Homosexuality is unnatural. Masturbation is unnatural.
It doesn’t mean that if a person feels an “instinct” or “urge” to do something, it is automatically natural. It still has to be judged by natural reason and according to the purpose God intends it to be used. For example, married persons still feel the TEMPTATION by feeling an attraction towards people who are not their spouse. Does it mean that it’s natural to commit adultery? No. Just because you feel like doing it doesn’t mean you should do it! You still have to think whether it’s right or wrong!
I Agree one million percent..... why people start this topic is beyond me......
maybe if I just scream out that it’s a natural body function, and yell it with a megaphone in both ears, maybe it might register …
I wrote a worthy reply for you, but good sense prevailed… I don’t wish an infraction… !
AT LAST........ a Person with intelligence..... Praise the Lord.
I’m not sure how it follows that it being a “natural bodily function” (we can dispute that as well) makes it alright and not disordered.
- Masturbation is a natural bodily function
- Therefore, masturbation is not a sin.
Correct… 1 and 2 are correct… you should try it sometime…
That’s not true. A lot of Catholics are able to live chaste lives. Yes, a chaste life demands struggle, but hey, all sins and temptations require us to struggle, not just those involving lust. It may be hard at first, especially if this has become a habit. But the grace of God is always there to accompany us. I suggest that the first step to conversion is a good Confession. Once in the state of grace, it’ll be easier t understand the teachings of the Church. It’ll also give you the grace you need for the struggle.