# Mind Body problem

#1

Here we discuss how one can resolve the problem related to conservation of energy when mind cause a motion in body. Consider a person with mass m which is under natural force F and psychic force P. The center of mass of this person moves according to F+P=m.a where a is acceleration. We always move our body such that F=m.a which means that we need P=0 (or infinitesimal and with average 0) in order to move. This means that the energy is conserved in such a situation.

#3

I think that, for such an equation to hold up, youâd have to be able to explain the existence of P in such a way that weâd be able to accept that it acts like ânatural forcesâ, and, if you were able to accomplish that (and Iâm not sure that you would be!), then youâd have to justify the equation itself!

#4

What I am suggesting is that we are able to move our body with psychic force of zero as far as F=m.a holds. So we could move freely as far as our body allows.

#5

You should be visiting - the Albert Einstein E= MC 2 answer forum -

Youâve been totally misguided - by someone else - to end up on this forum.

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#8

Force originated from mind.

#9

F=ma holds, where F = the vector sum of forces acting on the body. In your OP, if F = ânatural forceâ, does that mean that P = âpsychic forceâ = an âunnaturalâ force? a ânon-naturalâ force? You need to define âpsychic forceâ either as something that does act on physical bodies as ânaturalâ forces act, or you have to find an equation corresponding to Newtons Law, that perhaps you could combine with Newtonâs Law in such as way as to express the net force resulting from their combined action.

But if âpsychicâ force means the source of the muscular activity that actually does move oneâs own physical body - that is one thing. But do you refer to an ability of a human mind and by force of will, to cause, by thought alone, an inanimate object like a rock or a mountain, to move? Jesus suggests this is possible if one has faith as of a small seed:

Mt 17:20 He said to them, âBecause of your little faith. For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, âMove from here to there,â and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.â

This kind of force is certainly not ânaturalâ, but is supernatural - as faith of this kind is, itself, supernatural. Any theories - with relevant equations - of this âsupernatural mechanicsâ of bodies has not been shared with humanity yet.

#10

Iâm math illiterateâŚ

#11

The psychic force is the force originated from mind.

Yes. I mean about the ability of mind to exert force on thing. In this case we always adjust F=m.a so we can indeed move freely and need zero psychic force.

#12

You have a penchant for making unsupported claims and then inviting other people to argue over them.

This is tiring. Proof or it isnât possible!

#13

I have seen objections based on the laws of thermodynamics and other such things. I donât know if STT"s specific formulation is actually a good representation of those objections or not. Suffice it to say, itâs an objection to Cartesian conception of mind (res cogitans) and body (res extensa), which I donât buy into to begin with.

#14

Wow - youâre slothful too ?

#15

Iâm with you. I also donât think that the conservation of energy objection disproves the existence of the mind as a causal force.

#16

Gov, I donât think thatâs a handicap on this thread!

#17

I donât think you have a problem. If you refer to the moving of inanimate objects, as Jesus taught, the âpsychic forceâ available is usually zero. The faith required to execute such force is almost non-existent, it is so rare. We are indeed, âmen of little faith.â Smaller than the mustard seedâŚ

If you refer to moving your own body around - that natural force is generated in the body chemically, and is directed by the soul. Freedom in the soul can be found in Jesus Christ - not in an equation, but in submission to His Spirit. He is Truth, no âtheoryâ needed: just faith.

#18

Unsupported claim?

#19

I am arguing that there is no need to break the laws of thermodynamic if we move our body in specific way.

#20

It does. The rest for sake of 10 characters.

#21

There is no need to break the laws of thermodynamics or deny the mind with an Aristotlean-Thomist conception of the mind.

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