Mormon mom wants your reasons for supporting NFP

I am a Morman mother of five and I have strong feelings about procreation and the choice that I have made not to use birth control. I am curious to know some catholic reasons for procreation. Do you simply feel that it is a comandment of God as I do or are there more reasons that I dont know.

If it is a comandment to procreate then why is NFP ok?
Serious replys only please.

It is something we are told to do by God. “Be fruitful and multiply” (somewhere in early Genesis). Having children is one of the outcomes of being married. It is part of what being married is for. Therefore, Catholics believe that artificial forms of birth control are against the will of God. Catholics believe that married couples should be open to the possibility of having children. Artificial forms of birth control nullify the very possibility of being open to creating life. However, natural family planning still leaves open the possibility of bringing new life into the world. Another problem with artificial birth control is that, while you won’t hear this much from “mainstream society”, some of the forms of “birth control” actually cause abortions. For example, and IUD irritates the lining of the uterus so that the fertilized egg cannot implant in the wall. That’s abortion.

Here’s what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about this topic:

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A particular aspect of this responsibility concerns the regulation of procreation. For just reasons, spouses may wish to space the births of their children. It is their duty to make certain that their desire is not motivated by selfishness but it is in conformity with the generosity appropriate to responsible parenthood. Moreover, they should conform their behavior to the objective criteria of morality:
When it is a question of harmonizing married love with the responsible transmission of life, the morality of the behavior does not depend on sincere intention and evaluation of motives alone; but it must be determined by objective criteria, criteria drawn from the nature of the person and his acts, criteria that respect the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love; this is possible only if the virtue of married chastity is practice with sincerity of heart.

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Periodic continence, that is, the methods of birth regulation based on self-observation and the use of infertile periods, is in conformity with the objective criteria of morality. These methods respect the bodies of the spouses, encourage tenderness between them, and favor the education of an authentic freedom. In contrast “every action which, whether in anticipation of the conjugal act, or in its accomplishment, or in the development of its natural consequences, purposes, whether as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible” is intrinsically evil:
Thus the innate language that expresses the total reciprocal self-giving of husband and wife is overlaid, through contraception, byt an objectively contradictory language, namely, that of not giving oneself totally to the other. This leads not only to a positive refusal to be open to life but also to a falsification of the inner truth of conjugal love, which is called upon togive itself in personal totality…The difference, both anthropological and moral, between contraception and recourse to the rhythm of the cycle…involves in the final analysis two irreconcilable concepts of the human person and of human sexuality.
Hope that helps!

TkdNick gave a great response. Factual and clear.

I wish to humbly add this link to the page where the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) gives some more, and quite useful, information on what the Church teaches about procreation (we’re all FOR it!! for reasons cited that TkdNick provided) and Natural Family Planning:

usccb.org/prolife/issues/nfp/cathteach.htm

There are links on that page to these other pages that will give more information.

Human Sexuality from God’s Perspective: Humanae Vitae 25 Years Later

USCCB Secretariat for Pro-Life Activities, 1993

usccb.org/prolife/issues/nfp/humanae25.htm

Domum vitae: Instruction on Respect for Human Life – Instruction on Respect for Human Life In its Origin and the Dignity of Procreation: Replies to Certain Questions of the Day

Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 1987

usccb.org/prolife/tdocs/donumvitae.htm

Familiaris consortio: The Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World

Pope John Paul II, 1980

vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_19811122_familiaris-consortio_en.html

Humanae vitae: On the Regulation of Births

Pope Paul VI, 1968

usccb.org/prolife/tdocs/humanaevitae.htm

Casti connubii: On Christian Marriage

Pope Pius XI, 1930

vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_31121930_casti-connubii_en.html

One of the links on that page is this one specifically about NFP:

usccb.org/prolife/issues/nfp/NaturalFamilyPlanning.pdf

Hope this helps!
And may God continue to bless you and your family!

leschornmom,
I was blown away by this part when my wife and I began using NFP. Previously I had no idea! It is such a blessing.

Almost as much as our 5 kids as you well know.:slight_smile:

once again, I’m impressed:clapping:

Thank you so much for all the info. I will study this and get back to you. I did know how abortive cotraception can be and that is one of the main reasons I use if the subject ever comes up in conversation.

Welcome, leschornmom! There are some threads on these forums dealing with the subject but for my money they are endless and overly contentious. A quick study on the whole perspective regarding human sexuality can be found in a little book by Christopher West, entitled, Good News about Sex and Marriage. NFP is only a small part of the beautiful vision of the dignity of the human person.

And BTW, NFP does not mean “Not For Protestants!” :smiley:

where can I get that book? Do I order it through the Catholic church? Or can I gat it at any book store?

Short answer to why NFP is OK: It does not require distortion or deflection of a natural, authentic human marital act. Abstaining from intercourse by mutual agreement and for a serious reason is not sinful. Interfering with the marital act is sinful. The distinction isn’t essentially about natural or artificial means of regulating births; coitus interruptus is “natural” but it’s a no-no because it distorts the natural human act.

I’m a convert to the Catholic Church, and part of my conversion had to do with her beautiful vision of “the dignity of the human person.”

[quote=leschornmom]where can I get that book? Do I order it through the Catholic church? Or can I gat it at any book store?
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You can probably get it from any bookstore. I know you can get it from amazon.com

You could also order it from Catholic Answers. I’m sure they’ve got it.

TkdNick is right about West’s book. Barnes & Noble has it in their online catalog.

For technical information about NFP and how it works, try the Couple to Couple League

ccli.org/

[quote=mercygate]Short answer to why NFP is OK: It does not require distortion or deflection of a natural, authentic human marital act. Abstaining from intercourse by mutual agreement and for a serious reason is not sinful. Interfering with the marital act is sinful. The distinction isn’t essentially about natural or artificial means of regulating births; coitus interruptus is “natural” but it’s a no-no because it distorts the natural human act.

I’m a convert to the Catholic Church, and part of my conversion had to do with her beautiful vision of “the dignity of the human person.”
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Thank you very much for your responce it was the most strait forrward and to the point that I have recieved so far. I love this sight! Now I won’t have to constantly call my cousin with my thousand of questions!

The Christopher West book "Good News About Sex and Marriage"
is also available at One More Soul omsoul.com

They also have a booklet available “How The Pill and Other Contraceptives Work” omsoul.com/pamview.phtml?idnum=126, showing that the BC pill is an abortifacient. Although not in itself a conclusive argument against all birth control, it helped me to see the
truth of the Catholic position.
Also, the Karen Smith’s audio lecture "Contraception:Why Not"
omsoul.com/item140.html is very illuminatiing.

netmender

[quote=netmender]The Christopher West book "Good News About Sex and Marriage"
is also available at One More Soul omsoul.com

They also have a booklet available “How The Pill and Other Contraceptives Work” omsoul.com/pamview.phtml?idnum=126, showing that the BC pill is an abortifacient. Although not in itself a conclusive argument against all birth control, it helped me to see the
truth of the Catholic position.
Also, the Karen Smith’s audio lecture "Contraception:Why Not"
omsoul.com/item140.html is very illuminatiing.

netmender
[/quote]

Thanks I just ordered it.

Dr. Janet Smith puts it elegantly:

“What is the purpose and meaning and nature of sexual intercourse? It seems to me to be quite clear. It’s for two things. It’s for babies and it’s for bonding. And that’s what happens when you have sexual intercourse — you have babies and you bond. My view is, if you don’t want to have babies and you don’t want to bond, then you shouldn’t be having sexual intercourse.”

Excuse me:

I said "Karen Smith’s audio lecture ‘Contraception: Why Not’ "
in my previous post.

The correct name is Janet Smith.

netmender

Great discussion everyone. leschornmom, hope you enjoy what the Catholic Church has to say about NFP vs. artificial birth control. It certainly opened my eyes and led to a change in our practice. Obviously our two churches are very pro-family and pro-life. I was researching the LDS official website and wanted to know what they teach about abortion, and was surprised to find out that though the Mormon church is very much against abortion, it does permit it in certain cases. As listed on the LDS.org website, those cases include rape, incest, health of the mother and ability of the baby to survive past birth. I have to admit that really surprised me. Us Catholics believe that abortion is intrinsically evil, and therefore cannot never be permitted. My wife is LDS and I asked her about this, and she wasn’t aware that her church permitted abortion for any reason. Do you have any insights on this?

I don’t want to slam the LDS, but one of the characteristics of their church is that of ongoing prophecy; because of this, they have the tendancy of saying that God essentially changes his mind, in that doctrine changes - for example the status of colored people in the church (I use the word colored on purpose). Until the 30’s, most Christian denominations shared the same views on birth control; but with the advent of Margaret Sanger and the sexual revolution, most have caved in to popular pressure. It’s just taken longer with the LDS church.

As I understand it, the LDS church believes that the apostle John is still alive somewhere on the earth. I wonder what he would have to say about it.

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