[quote=Journeyman]CCC 1859 and 1860 seem to be key here.
I wanted to get a quote so it took some time to answer:
[font=Arial]Hiding it from the wife, does this imply knowing it is wrong? To me, this may only imply knowing that it is going to make his wife yell at him. This is not enough to know that it is wrong. I also want to consider the guy who would not do porn if he knew that it was a grave thing. Then I find it hard to accuse him of mortal sin, since his will is such that if it were a grave sin, he would not do it, and he is only willing to do it on account of it being venial. Such a man does not want to rupture his relationship with God, and it seems unfair to for him to be able to rupture it against his will, unknowingly.[/font]
[font=Arial]My moral theology text is more precise in terminology than the CCC:[/font]
[font=Arial]“sufficient reflection for mortal sin exists only if two conditions are met: (1) one acts in violation of one’s conscience, and (2) one’s conscience is that the matter either is grave or might be grave” Germain Grisez pg 266 Christian Moral Principles (he’s quite an orthodox moral theologian).[/font]
[font=Arial]On guy #2, I agree, he doesn’t know it is wrong. But, if he does know the Church teaches it is grave and he does know that he should obey the Church and he does know that his obligation to follow the teachings of the Church is serious, then he doesn’t quite get off the hook. I mean that even if he doesn’t otherwise see anything objectionable with porn.
I also agree that there is some degree among grave sins. Malice is bad stuff.[/font]
[font=Arial]Because of CCC1859-1860, it must be possible to be ignorant enough to get off the hook from a grave sin. So, the stuff about not deemed ignorant of moral principles can’t mean that you are always on the hook for grave sin. I think it means that you are on the hook for knowing about morality and basic concepts in it, like some stuff is wrong, don’t hurt other people, actions should have reasons, be fair, it is good to have friends, etc.[/font]
[font=Arial]I doubt the use of the word “deemed” instead of “is” matters (considered to be rather than actually is), but maybe it does.[/font]
[font=Arial]Remember with guy #2 that I wonder if it is likely to do grave sins for a long time without realizing their awfulness. After all, God calls them grave because of the harm they cause, not because of some whim of his. So the porn guys are suffering a lot of harm and not noticing or something. Actually I think not noticing is the most possible when your life is filled with so many sins that just one more doesn’t make the radar.