I have a traditionalist acquaintance who claims that Pope John Paul II changed the Church teaching on the husband being head of the family by encouraging mutual submission, and he claims that the pope was a modernist because of that. Here’s an e-mail I received from him. How would you respond to his claims? By the way, the opening quote is from an article in “The Wanderer” that I’d provided for him earlier.
The Holy Father in no way denies that in the order of authority the
is only subject to the husband, because he is not concerning himself
the order of authority in this document.>>
Well once again the “neo-conservatives” have done it. You guys supply
with all the ammunition we need.
The quote that I just pulled from below, summarizes nicely the
of John Paul 2 and all other post-Vatican 2 Popes (up to this point).
see, some will say that the Holy Father (John Paul 2) has never
pre-Conciliar teachings, but then again, dead-silence on an issue
speaks louder than words. The very fact that the Holy Father (John
in this encylical completely sides-stepped the issue is to me a
of a Modernist (worldly point-of-view) Pope. This has always bothered
about His Holiness. I’ve also read his encyclical “The Role of the
Christian Marriage in the Modern World”. In fact, I’ve read it a few
and again, no where is this issue (of authority, just simple authority.
the virtue of charity. That goes without saying. We must do all
charity. OK??? That’s beside the point. The fact is Pope John Paul 2
completely (yet again) side-stepped the issue. In my opinion, because
was afraid. Maybe he felt that the world wasn’t ready for him to
constant traditional Teaching of the Church. But to that I say, that is
(was) his job. For me, I would rather have a Pope that is
the world, as opposed to someone who is (was) beloved by it. To me, it
sends a subltle message. The Church has been bending over backwards
Vatican 2 to show how “new and worldly-friendly” She is (as opposed to
terrible, mean-spirited-homophobic-all male-dominated Church). And
frankly, I’m sick of seeing the Church trying to curry favor with one
supernatural enemies (the world itself). That is a clear distinction
between traditionalists and other Catholics. Most Catholics today look
(and view) the world as a “friend” whereas we realize that we must live
the world, but that the world is not our friend because it was never
And lastly, I am fed up with traditionalist’s being labled "out-of
schismatics, heretics, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, etc. etc.) WE ARE
AND NEITHER IS THE SSPX!!! NO ONE, NOT JOHN PAUL 2, NO ANY OTHER
OFFICE HAS FORMALLY DECLARED THE SSPX SOCIETY TO BE IN SCHISM!!! GET
FACTS STRAIGHT!! I do not mind arguing/debating issues. But I don’t
around ad-hominum attacks and neither should you. I will debate the
issue(s), not the person.
Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum,