NBC calls goddess Athena "Greece's patron saint"


#1

I am just watching the opening ceremonies of the 2004 Olympics in Athens Greece, and couldn’t help but hear the anouncer of NBC call the pagan goddess Athena “Greeces patron saint”. That anouncer was probably ignorant and had no better term, but it disturbs me that quote was used by the network. Needless to say they were paying a great deal of homage to their pagan roots in many other ways too if you were watching.


#2

He also said that Belise is an island nation. Belise is the former British Honduras and unless there has been much flooding recently it is still attached to Central America.

Interestingly enough there was a notable silence when the various saints were depicted on the floats during the opening ceremonies. On second thought, maybe we should be thankful for the silence.


#3

NBC’s coverage was terrible. I am lucky enough to live near the Canadian border and I watched their broadcast. It was much better, less commercials, and the commentators had an understanding of what different parts of the ceremony were suppose to represent.


#4

I found the following info on an internet tourist guide entitled “What To See in Athens” (no doubt the source on the announcers information.

“The Acropolis
High above Athens, watching over the chaos of the city is the Acropolis. Many of its original monuments were destroyed when the Persinas invaded in 480 B.C., but those that survived are the most popular tourist attractions in Greece. The Acropolis is crowned by the Parthenon, dedicated to Athena Parthenos, the patron saint of Athens. It is constructed entirely of Pentelic marble and is the epitome of the glory of ancient Greece and a supreme example of Doric architecture.”


#5

[quote=mjdonnelly]NBC’s coverage was terrible. I am lucky enough to live near the Canadian border and I watched their broadcast.
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That’s fine for Canada, but here in America, we don’t require members of the broadcast media to have knowledge of Geography… or History…Math?

Okay, we don’t require they have knowledge.


#6

Do you suppose they just didn’t know or didn’t care to research them? Or were they all pretty generic?


#7

I’m not surprised in the least, most of them seem like programmed robots with no real cognitive functions.


#8

The announcers have their script written out for them…so don’t blame Katie and Bob. Bob was being ‘Bob’ as he always is…a bit caustic and abrupt.

The pagent was about the history of Greece so I fully expected to see the gods and goddesses.

I think the ‘patron saint’ thing would wash over most people. I heard it but it didn’t really register.

I thought the float about the arrival of Christianity to Greece was very colorful and pretty and needed no commentary.

I liked the way Afghanistan, Iraq and the US contigents were so warmly greeted.

dream wanderer


#9

[quote=pnewton]That’s fine for Canada, but here in America, we don’t require members of the broadcast media to have knowledge of Geography… or History…Math?

Okay, we don’t require they have knowledge.
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Then why do we import their jounalists like Jennings? Just joking.


#10

I heard Bob Costas’ stupid remark :eek: and thought the same thing. He’s from St. Louis, you know. We know him well. He is indeed an ignoramus.


#11

[quote=dream wanderer]The announcers have their script written out for them…so don’t blame Katie and Bob. Bob was being ‘Bob’ as he always is…a bit caustic and abrupt.

The pagent was about the history of Greece so I fully expected to see the gods and goddesses.

I think the ‘patron saint’ thing would wash over most people. I heard it but it didn’t really register.

I thought the float about the arrival of Christianity to Greece was very colorful and pretty and needed no commentary.

I liked the way Afghanistan, Iraq and the US contigents were so warmly greeted.

dream wanderer
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Agreed. However I did catch the reference of Athena being the “patron saint”. I thought, “what an idiot!”

I thought the pagent to be quite interesting. The one thing I did not like is the singer Bjork. :eek: She is a horrible singer and how she got to where she is beyond me. I’m sure there were many Greek musicians that would have been more appropriate. Even Yanni would have been a better choice than Bjork. :eek:
Again, I thought the commentators were showing off their ignorance when they were talking about her outfit. They made is sound like it was her personal choice, when obviously the costume had another purpose.


#12

If anyone is interested, the Patron Saints of Greece are

St. Andrew the Apostle
St. George
St. Nicholas of Myra
The Blessed Virgin Mary

Maybe someone needs to email NBC.

Justin


#13

I watched the Canadian coverage, and they did say that Athena was the “patron” of ancient Athens–which makes sense, as the city is named after her. I didn’t hear the word “saint,” however.

I saw some of the NBC coverage as well, and their production did quite a hack job. Also, the commentators need to learn when NOT to speak.

But that’s just my biased opinion. :slight_smile:

I thought the opening ceremonies were great.


#14

[quote=Catholic29]I am just watching the opening ceremonies of the 2004 Olympics in Athens Greece, and couldn’t help but hear the anouncer of NBC call the pagan goddess Athena “Greeces patron saint”. That anouncer was probably ignorant and had no better term, but it disturbs me that quote was used by the network. Needless to say they were paying a great deal of homage to their pagan roots in many other ways too if you were watching.
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Actually, they mentioned that she was their patron GODDESS. We as Catholics don’t have patron goddesses, or goddesses for that matter. There’s nothing to be worried about, it’s not a sacrilige.


#15

[quote=dream wanderer]The announcers have their script written out for them…so don’t blame Katie and Bob. Bob was being ‘Bob’ as he always is…a bit caustic and abrupt.

The pagent was about the history of Greece so I fully expected to see the gods and goddesses.

I think the ‘patron saint’ thing would wash over most people. I heard it but it didn’t really register.

I thought the float about the arrival of Christianity to Greece was very colorful and pretty and needed no commentary.

I liked the way Afghanistan, Iraq and the US contigents were so warmly greeted.

dream wanderer
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I liked a great deal about it but Katie Couric really needs someone to tell her there is life outside of NY. Some of her comments were so - well, so Katie - such as “did you know before Broadway the Greeks had theatre?” Duh - Wow, that’s deep Katie, really deep.

Then later some other inane comments like "I didn’t know there were so many nations…well if my job was commentary on the march of nations during the Olympics, I think I’d look at a map or two - and the thing I hated were the way the commercial breaks were handled, which interrupted the march so instead of continuing where they left off, they just zupped you by which meant you caught a 2 second glimpse of color and costume and participants. I also thought the comments on the entrance of the Saudis was extraneous to the Olympics and should have been edited out. Katie shoulda stayed home, kept interviewing Gollywood about its flicks abnd touchy-feeley opinions on the world and sent someone who could have added to the color commentary. As for no comment during the saints part of the display, my guess is she didn’t have a clue.

Now on with the games…


#16

[quote=pnewton]That’s fine for Canada, but here in America, we don’t require members of the broadcast media to have knowledge of Geography… or History…Math?

Okay, we don’t require they have knowledge.
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Please don’t put the CBC any higher on its secular humanist “pagan/GLBT-positive” pedestal than it places itself, my good Catholic American brother. They’re sucking you in. Don’t let them.

Here in Canada, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, “the public broadcaster” is roughly equivalent to NPR, but with nationwide separately programmed AM, FM and TV networks coast-to-coast-to-coast in both official languages, with a separate, simlarly-equipped set of broadcast networks for aboriginal peoples in the North. Given geography and population/tax base size, CBC is an unique technical accomplishment by world standards. Big whoop.

It’s also funded entirely by my tax dollars and has adopted a clearly visible mission to insult, denigrate, marginalize and otherwise degrade, belittle and at the very least misrepresent or ignore fact about the Catholic Church and faith. That’s the CBC’s capital-T tradition. Get a load of this story and site: cbcwatch.ca/?q=node/view/219/296 For my American friends, imagine the effect of Paul Harvey comparing the Catholic Church to the Mafia. Page… Two!

Its management is a welcoming and encouraging sugar-daddy for “special interest” agendas. No behaviour is too much to merit its own celebrationally-toned documentary. This, in a Catholic nation (42% according to the latest Census: www12.statcan.ca/english/census01/Products/Analytic/companion/rel/canada.cfm ) under a succession of Catholic leaders on whom John Kerry has nothing when it comes to “moral incoherence” ( wcr.ab.ca/bishops/henry/2004/henry061404.shtml ).

But the CBC is only the organ of discipline. If you really want an eye opener about freedom of speech, get your mind around the CRTC: the brains behind the operation. The Canadian Radio Television Commission, the public arbiter of taste in Canada, is a federal bureaucracy that has survived and spanned successive governments since the late 1960s. Originally commissioned to arbitrate allocation of public frequency spectrum (like the FCC), it has taken upon itself, and, ignoring legislators, has installed itself as the government agency that determines what I may and may not watch or listen to in Canada.

Until two years ago, the CRTC kept Canada on the list of countries that effectively blocks its citizens from receiving EWTN. Thanks to the tireless efforts of people in and out of Canada, like Mike Mishol of EWTN in the U.S., the only remaining country now on that list is Cuba. And yet, the CRTC still routinely refuses applications for Catholic Broadcasting on the public airwaves. They allow nationwide carriage of Radio Maria Canada as long as it’s mostly in Italian and only available on SCA-- (an essentially unused facility of commercial FM transmitters–you need a specialty radio).

Oh yeah–and cannot carry any other network’s programming.

(more, sorry but you MADE me open up this fresh can…)


#17

[quote=kevinfraser](more, sorry but you MADE me open up this fresh can…)
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If this surprises you to discover happening in a democracy, imagine how Canadians feel when I tell them about it. We don’t know because we’re all so busy watching U.S. TV and listening to U.S. syndicated radio. Nonreligious networks are quite alright in some proportion, of course.

The coded language used for that prohibition is “single point of view faith broadcaster.” Oh I probably could have a Catholic station if I wanted to spend enough millions of dollars on legalities, as long as I didn’t carrry any EWTN or other network originated programming, and as long as I gave pro-abortion and other anti-catholic groups equal time for rebuttal as a condition of license.

Bienvenue au Canada.

Given the Holy Spirit’s methods, it’s maybe not surprising that they love to play sacred music on CBC FM: either the French or English network. You might want to listen in as a commercial-free alternative for classical: cbc.ca/audio.html (Olympic blackout until Sept.) Listen long enough and you’ll eventually hear an oh-so-educated slag against Catholics.

THEN, I really want to hear from you about what it takes to be a broadcaster in Canada.

In Canada, we are free to broadcast anything we like on our public airwaves as long as it doesn’t conflict with the CRTC’s “balance” policy (code for NO CATHOLICS NEED APPLY) on “matters of public concern” (code for Catholic teaching on anything).

My conversion came about from EWTN on Sacred Heart 1050 in Seattle, and then on EWTN via Internet. I have spent years discerning if I should pursue starting Canada’s first Catholic Radio Station. Please all posters, pray for me. You have a Catholic neighbor to the North with enemies of the Church at the controls:

cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=31431


#18

I just think the CBC coverage of the ceremonies was better. NBC had nice graphics in the bottom portion of the screen showing where each country was located (CBC had none). The announcers for CBC were better. I’ve heard them before and recognize them from other sporting events. I think Katie should stick to covering the Walt Disney World parades.


#19

Though the (brief) treatment of Greece’s Christian heritage was done well, what saddened me was how the pageant implied that it was just another period in the timeline of the nation’s history, on an equal footing with its pagan past and its secular present.

What saddened me further was the climax of the pageant. A pregnant young woman, with exposed glowing pregnant belly (or artificial replica of one), eventually gives birth to…what, exactly? A thousand points of light? 50,000 Celine Dion fans holding up Bic lighters in hopes of an encore? The brotherhood of man? The latest GEICO commercial? What, exactly? Strange.

And what also sort of creeps me out at every Olympic ceremony is the singing of the “Olympic Hymn”, whatever that is. Who are they singing to? Whoever it is, I have a pretty good guess it isn’t our Lord God in heaven.

As for the TV coverage, I, too, noticed the implied terrorist references whenever a nation such as Saudi Arabia was on camera. Nice touch, Bob and Katie. And did anyone else but me notice that when the Palestinians were on camera, they were the one nation that Bob and Katie did not mention by name? Just some remark about Yasser Arafat and then on to the next nation. So much for keeping politics out of it.

ParkCityRich


#20

[quote=ParkCityRich]Though the (brief) treatment of Greece’s Christian heritage was done well, what saddened me was how the pageant implied that it was just another period in the timeline of the nation’s history, on an equal footing with its pagan past and its secular present.
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Doesn’t secularism permit Christianity, like a flavor?

[quote=ParkCityRich]pregnant young woman, with exposed glowing pregnant belly (or artificial replica of one), eventually gives birth to…what, exactly?
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A strand of DNA. That’s what REALLY creeped me out. Imagine the possibilities: a dynasty of cloned gold-medal winners. Sorry, but if that can occur to ME…?


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