neopets?

how much do you let your kids have access to computers? my kids were pretty innocent of cyberspace until their friends introduced them to “neopets”. they all talk about neopets now! anyone know anything about this website?
Lil’

I was a neopets addict for 5 years! There is nothing immoral about the site…games, and buying trading and selling fake items. you make neopoints and get very rich. you build a house etc. adults go on it so if you want you can try. however, it is possible to contact other players so if you dont want your kids talking to other neopians make sure they have the kids setting which doesnt let contact occur. or you can block all ‘neomails’ etc. its really a fun thing, and its not immoral.

My daughter and I both love neopets!

Your children will REQUIRE parental authorization to interact with other players. You’ll print out a sheet and fax or mail it back to the company.

I give it two thumbs up. The games are diverse, fun, and interesting (some are even a little educational).

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I can personally vouch for the addictiveness of this site. I was highly addicted and probably neglected my husband and other family duties by playing Neopets too much. So be warned… it is highly highly addictive. It’s like once you get started it’s almost hard to stop… I have to just not play it at all to drag myself away from it… it’s hard to play just a “little bit” b/c it is so addictive. There is almost something on there for everyone, adults & kids. But be warned - some people take the game way too seriously and try to scam others out of “neopoints”!! I don’t think there is really anything immoral about the site per se either… there are things like faeries, an “island mystic”, etc… I generally tended to try to avoid those kind of things on the site… but as long as everyone realizes it is “just for fun” and not reality, it is probably okay… just don’t let it take over your life!!!

I have instead tried to turn my “addiction” and spare time over to my Family Members of Fallen Away Catholics online group. I think my time is much better spent ministering to this group rather than playing Neopets!!

The creator of Neopets is a marketing executive named Doug Dohring.

If you’re interested in the background of the creator of Neopets, you might want to Google Doug Dohring. If you’re really curious, you might want to Google “Dohring Scientology”.

[quote=cathologos]The creator of Neopets is a marketing executive named Doug Dohring.

If you’re interested in the background of the creator of Neopets, you might want to Google Doug Dohring. If you’re really curious, you might want to Google “Dohring Scientology”.
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Well that was creepy beyond belief! My 13 year old son is huge into neopets so we read the “Dohring Scientology” thing together. He said, “How do you know this is true Mom?” So I had him post the question on the forums - “Is there any truth to this website (we posted a link) that Neopets is realted to Scientology?” One person answered - isn’t that a cult? And then the thread was immediately deleated by an administrator. My son said that was so weird because normally they just “freeze” a thread - he said he’s never seen one deleated & just removed off the site. So we discussed Scientology & how the Devil uses groups like that to get people further away from God so my son decided on his own to never visit that site again.

Thank you so much for the tip - I should have been more aware of what was occupying so much of my son’s time. Shame on me.

anyone else have more info on this site? the research i did checks out: the guy is a scientologist, he is the ceo, and he is a marketing specialist using Hubbard’s philosophies. The notable thing about the site to me is it’s addictiveness.
Lil’

I have never joined Neopets. Instead I have been working on my own site and I want it to be something that is for children and adults alike. Ours is where you can adopt a pet, buy items for it, enter it into races and receive levels for it (like earn intelligence points ect). We are currently adding AI for the pets and will be adding virtual pet stuff (feeding, playing with ect).

Hopefully it can grow to a nice family-safe site that is not about commercialism.

So the guy who dreamed up Neopets is a scientologist…

Big Whoop.

There isn’t anything on the site that has a thing to do with religion. Totally morally neutral.

So the guy that runs our local pizza joint belongs to the Masonic Lodge. Does that mean I have shouldn’t go down and have a pizza because he is a Mason?

I figure we have an obligation to be representatives of our Catholic Faith in every aspect of our lives, including when we deal with those who are not Catholic (or Christian for that matter).

JMHO :cool:

[quote=Shiann]So the guy who dreamed up Neopets is a scientologist…

Big Whoop.

There isn’t anything on the site that has a thing to do with religion. Totally morally neutral.

So the guy that runs our local pizza joint belongs to the Masonic Lodge. Does that mean I have shouldn’t go down and have a pizza because he is a Mason?

I figure we have an obligation to be representatives of our Catholic Faith in every aspect of our lives, including when we deal with those who are not Catholic (or Christian for that matter).

JMHO :cool:
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According to the their site, Neopets is now the largest web portal
larger than Ebay & yahoo. They boast to over 70 million members which ads up to a HUGE amount of advertising dollars into their pockets. Their 100 employees are all scientologists (common to employ other cult members) and the profits go back to Scientology. By participating in this website, you are contributing to Scientology - a group that is anti - Jesus to the extream.

It’s great that you are, no doubt a strong Catholic who wouldn’t fall prey to a cult like Scientology but many others who aren’t Christians do. We are told to go out and make disciples - some day we will stand before God & give an accounting of our lives. Do you really want to stand before Him and have to tell him why you supported a “Religion” where his Son’s death was mocked? All in the name of entertainment???

I pray not. :frowning:

well, I found out a friend of mine is an ex scientologist. he had some pretty scary stories about how hard it was to “leave the church”. I showed him the site. he said it looked like it was “designed to addict” and looked very familiar to him. “don’t under estimate their technology” he said, “if it were my kid I wouldn’t let him near it”. some of the stuff I’m reading is really creepy. I went to scientologykills. creepy. especially the bit about cults. is this stuff for real?
I don’t like to judge anyone. but this information has at least made me very cautious! and no more neopets for the kids.
lil’

religioustolerance.org/scientol1.htm

Above is a link to a page that explains Scientology. I checked the site quickly and it seems Scientologists believe in reincarnation or some aspect of it, the don’t believe in Heaven or Hell and they claim to have 8 billion believers.

[quote=carol marie]According to the their site, Neopets is now the largest web portal
larger than Ebay & yahoo. They boast to over 70 million members which ads up to a HUGE amount of advertising dollars into their pockets. Their 100 employees are all scientologists (common to employ other cult members) and the profits go back to Scientology. By participating in this website, you are contributing to Scientology - a group that is anti - Jesus to the extream.

It’s great that you are, no doubt a strong Catholic who wouldn’t fall prey to a cult like Scientology but many others who aren’t Christians do. We are told to go out and make disciples - some day we will stand before God & give an accounting of our lives. Do you really want to stand before Him and have to tell him why you supported a “Religion” where his Son’s death was mocked? All in the name of entertainment???

I pray not. :frowning:
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First of all, you made one point… “We are told to go out and make disciples…”

Do you think we should only go out to areas that are heavily populated with Catholics or Christians so that we are sure to protect our own sense of right and wrong??? How is that making disciples for the Faith?

If this website was a den of sin, promoting Scientology or other anti-Christian materials I could see your point. But the site is MORALLY NEUTRAL. The games are familiar childhood games (as well as some other fun ones).

You bring up advertising… If we should avoid the site because they profit millions of dollars (for scientology)- what should we do about those people who PAID the expense for that advertising? Do we boycott all the companies who buy advertising on Neopets?

You are right, I consider myself a strong Catholic. I also consider myself a warrior for God and the Faith, and warriors battle enemies…

When I am in front of God "giving an accounting of my life"
I will stand before Him and show Him how often I was able to show one of those weak non-Christians you describe above- how a Faithfull person acts. How would I be able to do that, if I didn’t interact with non-Christians?

I support your decision to avoid Neopets. And applaud you for it. I have often avoided products or services because of their direct conflict with Catholic morality.

But you still haven’t answered my question as to what I am to do with my Masonic Pizzaria owner? The money I spend in his eatery will no doubt go to supporting something associated with freemasonry… Am I to alienate my neighbor, and not associate with him because he is of another religion?

Hi Shiann,
I agree w/ your point about mixing. I would not boycott your pizza parlor either. In fact, i believe in open dialogues between faiths and I choose a diverse community. You point is well taken and in the genuine spirit of Jesus, who mixed freely.
My concern about neopets is not that it’s ceo is of a different faith. It is a question of whether or not it is addictive, coercive, or subliminal. And if it is any of these things, I would speculate as to what the intentions are of it’s founder(s). My children’s best interest? I have some well founded doubts about that. Market research? Much more likely. Addiction? A frequently used word, even among people on this site. And to what end? Eventual recruitment? A bit far fetched, still…
The ex scientologist I consulted w/ was quick to point out that scientology was, for him at least, more of a cult than a religion. He said he was harrassed after leaving. He actually claimed a woman he knew was “kidnapped” after trying to leave. My sense is that if even a fraction of the things I am hearning are true, then scientology falls into an entirely different category than religions.
Lil’

Wow, you really don’t want to give up playing on that site do you?
Look - it’s your life - live it how you please. But just so you know I went to a cult watch group & they had some information about Scientology. Apparently Scientologists consider everything L.Ron Hubbard has written to be “scripture.” One of the quotes listed was a famous one he said about our Savior Jesus Christ:
“Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 600 BC found some pieces of R6. And I don’t know how they found it, either by watching madmen or something, but since that time they have used it and it became what is known as Christianity. The man on the cross. There was no Christ.”

Don’t take my word for it… go to this site:

ezlink.com/~perry/Co$/Christian/

And you can read for yourself. Sceintology isn’t just any “non Catholic” religion - it’s a total Satanic mind control cult. But you’re right - you don’t get any of that from the Neopets site - why would they put anything like that on there - it’s not like parents would let their children play if they knew they were supporting Scientology. Satan is much more clever than that. The neopets site is morally neutral but all the money they generate goes right back to Scientology. Read it - see what you’re supporting by playing neopets.

And regarding witnessing to others - Yes I think we should do that - so if you come across a Scientologist by all means share the gospel. But that’s not what you’re doing by playing neopets. Instead you are literally giving him money to give to his “church.” And as far as avoiding all the companies who advertise on neopets? I don’t know who those companies are but I can promise you that if every Chrisitan were to boycott neopets, fewer & fewer companies will want to pay to advertise. But if everyone has the same attitude of yours - well that’s how neopets can boast of 70 million members. It’s one thing if you didn’t know - but now you do. So now what are you going to do about it?

You called yourself a “Warrior for God” Who do you think our fight is against? Listen to what God says, " For our stuggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Ep6:12 If that isn’t talking about the Church of Scientology I don’t know who it’s talking about???

And regarding your pizza, if the “mason” owner told me that he opened the pizza parlor so that ALL of his profits could go to supporty the freemasons and I found out that the freemasons taught that Jesus Christ was a lie I would find a new pizza place.

But hey, that’s just me. Maybe you think it’s really good pizza?

5 year neopest addict…been there since before anyone had heard of it. I never once even have seen a mention of scientology. The post was deleted because neopets is very religion neutral and doesnt allow discussions of that. it does celebrate christmas and easter in a non religious sense, having a 25 day advent calendar that gives out special prizes in december, and releasing more rare bunny-type neopets on easter. they have never once mentioned scientology or pushed it on anyone so please dont worry!

On Neopets, do they allow religious discussions on their forum? You can’t look at the forum unless you register and I really don’t feel like registering (I really don’t like neopets). I am curious as to what content they allow on the forums. I wonder if it is a atrocious as on Gaia Online (oh their forums are awful).

Edit: Oh the poster above just answered my question.

[quote=siamesecat]5 year neopest addict…been there since before anyone had heard of it. I never once even have seen a mention of scientology. The post was deleted because neopets is very religion neutral and doesnt allow discussions of that. it does celebrate christmas and easter in a non religious sense, having a 25 day advent calendar that gives out special prizes in december, and releasing more rare bunny-type neopets on easter. they have never once mentioned scientology or pushed it on anyone so please dont worry!
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Siamesecat,
While it’s true that Neopets does not mention The Church of Scientology, all of the profits generated from neopets helps to fund it. So by supporting neopets, you are supporting Scientology - which is a “religion” that teaches that Jesus Christ was a lie & a fraud. While I can appreciate that this line of thinking may not be offensive to you since you are an Atheist, it should be offensive to Christians.

again, I think the issue is whether the site is addictive, subliminal, or coercive and the intentions of it’s founder. It’s addictiveness is testified by others on this site. My kids became addicted quickly enough. but there was somethng more, something my ex scientology friend picked up on immediatly. “it’s structured exactly like scientology” he said, “you invest more and more time, you are ‘rewarded’ with neopoints and then spend your points on neoproducts, you are ‘punished’ by not frequenting it regularly (neopets get sick if not fed regularly), you learn a language unique to neopia, you develope a sense of insiders and outsiders, you develope a style of analysis measuring IQ, strength, etc relating to your pets 'profile”… it isn’t the money, people. It’s the CONDITIONING. Addictive. Subliminal. Coercive. Again, i must question the motivation: concern for my children’s welfare? Or a way to further the cause of scientology? h-m-m.
Lil’

[quote=Lil’]again, I think the issue is whether the site is addictive, subliminal, or coercive and the intentions of it’s founder. It’s addictiveness is testified by others on this site. My kids became addicted quickly enough. but there was somethng more, something my ex scientology friend picked up on immediatly. “it’s structured exactly like scientology” he said, "you invest more and more time, you are ‘rewarded’ with neopoints
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What you are talking about here isn’t solely related to scientology. All online games are structured this way. There needs to be an element of reward for people to continue to play… who wants to play a game that no one wins or succeeds?

and then spend your points on neoproducts, you are ‘punished’ by not frequenting it regularly (neopets get sick if not fed regularly),

But the pet never EVER dies. You can play forever and never feed your pet. You do not need to log in every day or even every week or month to keep your pet alive.

you learn a language unique to neopia,

Well I’m familiar with cyber-speak… does that make me odd?

you develope a sense of insiders and outsiders, you develope a style of analysis measuring IQ, strength, etc relating to your pets 'profile"…

Again, there are many games you can play online that reflect this mentality, and they aren’t ALL run by scientologists! Ultima Online, Morrowind, the Sims etc. All have “communities” of individuals who like the games, who excell at them, and who establish all of these traits.

Does that make them bad people for developing friendships this way?

My point here is that if you are looking at these traits as something isolated to neopets, you are mistaken, and I am quite sure not all online gaming communities are involved in scientology.

Now, if you want to discuss the way that these games can addict a person, I could agree with that argument. For this reason alone, I watch how much time my child spends on the site. But I also limit how much TV she watches, and how much sugar she has. Anything in excess is not good for anyone. Teaching a child limitation is essential.

it isn’t the money, people. It’s the CONDITIONING. Addictive. Subliminal. Coercive. Again, i must question the motivation: concern for my children’s welfare? Or a way to further the cause of scientology? h-m-m.
Lil’

If it referenced scientology, I could completely agree with you. But the creators and people who work on neopets REMOVE ALL RELIGION from the site as noted above by several posters. But it doesn’t reference any religion what so ever.

Again, if you do not feel that neopets is a good fit in your home, I commend you on your astute descernment. Some children (and adults) are more prone to the addictive nature of games like this… (How many times have we caught ourselves playing solitaire on the computer for an hour or more!?) I also commend those parents who have opted to limiting the exposure their children have to these games.

I guess it’s a lot like the question of “when and how to teach your kids about alcohol.” Alcohol can be enjoyed in moderation, but an example needs to be set for them. Some parents opt to restrict any alcohol in the home… others enjoy a beverage every night. Even others allow children to partake on holidays and family get togethers. I don’t think any of these options are WRONG. They all have their limitations and benefits- and I support the parent’s decision either way.

If you find that the games are taking away from family time, or that your children are becoming to “into” the neopet world- by all means restrict or even eliminate their time at the site!

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