Nicole Kidman and the Golden Compass

Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Did she ever give any comments on the film and her faith?

[quote="SeanF1989, post:1, topic:267358"]
Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Did she ever give any comments on the film and her faith?

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I am not sure "devout" is the way I would describe her. Although, she is an actress, and would be comparable too other actors such as Mark Walberg, not so as much Mel Gibson.

[quote="SeanF1989, post:1, topic:267358"]
Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Did she ever give any comments on the film and her faith?

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if she is a Catholic, that's news to me. I watched Golden Compass because I was curious and its blatanly anti-Catholic. If she is one, I don't see how she could star in this movie. Or perhaps she just doesn't care one way or the other, who the heck knows.

oh well then she didn't switch to scienctology when married to Cruz, thats good. I don't keep up much with stars. I know Katie Cruz use to be Catholic and switched to sciencetology, oh well.

I was excited to hear when she returned to the Church, but sad to see that she and her husband had a baby through a surrogate mother.

perhaps devout compared to where she once was or to her circle, but not so well formed in the faith...

hopefully, on a journey, though.

[quote="Irish_Polock, post:2, topic:267358"]
I am not sure "devout" is the way I would describe her. Although, she is an actress, and would be comparable too other actors such as Mark Walberg, not so as much Mel Gibson.

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Mark Walberg is Catholic? :eek:

[quote="TrueLight, post:6, topic:267358"]
Mark Walberg is Catholic? :eek:

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ha ha Mark Wahlberg is whereever Jesus Christ has guided him today on December,23,2011.

. .It is not anyone's business to discuss what high-profile actors are doing.

[quote="SeanF1989, post:1, topic:267358"]
Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Did she ever give any comments on the film and her faith?

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Its only acting. But as you noticed they warnt as much as a successful as the chronicles of narnia.

[quote="TrueLight, post:6, topic:267358"]
Mark Walberg is Catholic? :eek:

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Yep, supposedly he attends daily mass and one of his best friends is his pastor.

These actors may have been baptized Catholic and call themselves Catholic...but they do not follow the rules the same way you do, so you will probably consider them that lovely phrase I see here often--"Cafeteria Catholics".

Walberg is currently producing a series on the porn industry and, of course, played a famous porn star in Boogie Nights. I saw Kidman completely nude on the Broadway stage a few years ago. Acting is acting and work is work but...
Not sure if you would consider these actions along the "devout" lines?

Ever heard of conversion of heart??

[quote="Big_Feet, post:11, topic:267358"]
Ever heard of conversion of heart??

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Not sure exactly what you mean...in general, yes, I've heard about people converting from one belief to another because they feel something strong in their heart about it. That has been going on for centuries and centuries, of course.

But if people who call themselves Catholic continually do acts that would be considered wrong by the church and other catholics...they would not be considered so very "devout", right?
There are many posts here about dressing modestly in church and on the street and at work and on the beach. So I imagine being naked from head to toe on stage in front of hundreds of strangers would not be considered a thing to do. Or using a surrogate.

I personally don't think there is anything wrong with it and I applaud her...but it doesn't seem to fit in with what people here would consider "devout".
Am I wrong or right?
Using a surrogate is using in-vitro...and that is considered morally "wrong" within the church, is it not?

[quote="DaddyGirl, post:12, topic:267358"]
Not sure exactly what you mean...in general, yes, I've heard about people converting from one belief to another because they feel something strong in their heart about it. That has been going on for centuries and centuries, of course.

But if people who call themselves Catholic continually do acts that would be considered wrong by the church and other catholics...they would not be considered so very "devout", right?

Am I wrong or right?
Using a surrogate is using in-vitro...and that is considered morally "wrong" within the church, is it not?

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and before you said:

[quote="DaddyGirl, post:10, topic:267358"]
These actors may have been baptized Catholic and call themselves Catholic...but they do not follow the rules the same way you do, so you will probably consider them that lovely phrase I see here often--"Cafeteria Catholics".

Walberg is currently producing a series on the porn industry and, of course, played a famous porn star in Boogie Nights. I saw Kidman completely nude on the Broadway stage a few years ago. Acting is acting and work is work but...
Not sure if you would consider these actions along the "devout" lines?

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Most of what you were referencing are things from years ago. And maybe the work (I dont know) that MW is doing on his series is showing what is wrong with the Porn industry?

I am saying that we do not know what is actually in the hears of these people, so I for one will not judge.

[quote="DaddyGirl, post:10, topic:267358"]
These actors may have been baptized Catholic and call themselves Catholic...but they do not follow the rules the same way you do, so you will probably consider them that lovely phrase I see here often--"Cafeteria Catholics".

Walberg is currently producing a series on the porn industry and, of course, played a famous porn star in Boogie Nights. I saw Kidman completely nude on the Broadway stage a few years ago. Acting is acting and work is work but...
Not sure if you would consider these actions along the "devout" lines?

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Exactly!

[quote="Big_Feet, post:13, topic:267358"]

I am saying that we do not know what is actually in the hears of these people, so I for one will not judge.

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No one ever knows what is in the heart of people. Having said that, "By their fruits, you shall know them."

If we're going to call them devout, that is making a judgment as well and the label should match their actions?

Of course, I don't follow them that closely, so maybe they had conversion experiences.

[quote="SeanF1989, post:1, topic:267358"]
Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Maybe it's just me, or I'm in the wrong forum:
In my opinion, it's just an other-world fantasy movie with an interesting view re animals; perhaps not too unlike native american beliefs. I saw a heroic girl who saved her friends at the risk of her own life, who gave up a lap of luxury and suffered hardships in order to free them from a prison-like environment. How the writer fulfils the theme is of no consequence. You either like it or you don't.
I loved fairy tales and comic book heroes as a kid (still do) and watched Vampire movies as a young (and older) adult and never once believed any of them existed. It's escapism.

Did the Catholic church come out against GC? Or is it just popular belief that they did, like the Harry Potter movies?

As for Nicole and her movie roles: Moulin Rouge poses the bigger question in my mind re her acting selections vs her faith.

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One can look up where Nicole said that she wouldn't do that movie if it was against her faith.

The Golden Compass IS Athiest propeganda. Fans of the books were upset there wasn't more anti-God and anti-Catholicism in the movie.

Mark Wahlberg -- Yes, he's Catholic. He married his long time girlfriend (with whom he has 4 children so far) and he has a tattoo of a Rosary over his heart (which says, "In God I Trust")

hollywood.com/news/Wahlberg_chooses_nudity_over_love_scene_to_keep_wife_happy/11768692
Mark Wahlberg choses a nude scene over a graphic sex scene. It was his compromise.

thespec.com/news/local/article/634661--mark-wahlberg-embarrassed-by-his-early-fashion-choices
Mark Wahlberg wishes his younger self was more modest.

That being said, he DID take the Lord's Name in vain in, "The Happening."

In my opinion, it’s just an other-world fantasy movie with an interesting view re animals; perhaps not too unlike native american beliefs. I saw a heroic girl who saved her friends at the risk of her own life, who gave up a lap of luxury and suffered hardships in order to free them from a prison-like environment. How the writer fulfils the theme is of no consequence. You either like it or you don’t.
I loved fairy tales and comic book heroes as a kid (still do) and watched Vampire movies as a young (and older) adult and never once believed any of them existed. It’s escapism.

Did the Catholic church come out agai

Well the sequels would have gotten more into the anti-Catholic sentiment. From what I’ve read in synopsis the books ends with the protagonists killing an archangel who has impersonated God and that God had been dead for a long time prior to that moment. Needless to say this archangel is apparently evil at least in the protagonists point of view, again I didn’t look into it much. Also apparently the Magestrium which is obviously suppose to represent the Catholic Church in the mind of atheists is a constant villain through the books and ends up destroyed by the end of the series.

To be honest I’m glad the movie bombed and will most likely not be given a sequel.

[quote="SeanF1989, post:1, topic:267358"]
Nicole Kidman is a Catholic (and devout from what I have read) yet she starred in the film The Golden Compass which as anti-Catholic themes.

Did she ever give any comments on the film and her faith?

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Really ? Devout? she recently had a child through a surrogate mother. Against church teachings!

I thought it was a great movie.....

[quote="Big_Feet, post:13, topic:267358"]
and before you said:

Most of what you were referencing are things from years ago. And maybe the work (I dont know) that MW is doing on his series is showing what is wrong with the Porn industry?

I am saying that we do not know what is actually in the hears of these people, so I for one will not judge.

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Ohhh, don't getmewrong....I'm certainly not judging at all. I think they are both fabulous.
I'm just correcting earlier posts commenting on their "devout" level, as it were.
I assume that when you say someone is devout, it means they try very hard to follow the main rules of the church and also believe them?
Kidman did use a surrogate for her baby as recently as this year, 2011.
And the porn series, being written by scandal-embroiled A Million Peices author Jame Frey, is in line with Whalberg's HBO show Entourage...it will be a drama, showing all aspects of the industry.

But again, I think these people have wonderful hearts. I merely point out that they most likely would not be considered "devout" in the way that most on this site would define it.

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