[quote="followingtheway, post:1, topic:336276"]
I saw a video where a Christian pastor was debating a Jewish rabbi over Jesus being the messiah.
The rabbi brought up the verse Ezekiel 18:20, which says "The soul that sins, it shall die.The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son..."
He used this verse to prove that Jesus could not have died for our sins, because according to that verse, a man can't die for another man's sins.
What is everyone's take on this?
My take: The rabbi is creating a strawman.
In the full context of the entire chapter, it describes how the actions of the *human *individuals in determining sin on themselves based on their own acts. As the chapter details, a good son sired of an evil father is only responsible for his own acts of good and evil and not that of his father's or his grandfathers.
The rabbi's analogy fails because he fails to accept the Christian belief that God is God. While the Second Person, God the Son, is begotten by the Father, their relationship is not the same as human relationships. God the Father and God the Son are not entirely human, nor have they ever sinned.
The rabbi seems to also ignore Christ's role, which is not in the context of Ezekiel 18. Christ's sacrifice reflects the type of Abraham and his willing offering of sacrifice of his son, Isaac. Abraham shows God how much he loves him by offering Him his own flesh and blood (an act that God halts before the sacrifice is made).
Likewise, the Jews mirror this offering of sacrifice on the Day of Atonement by giving a high-quality animal to sacrifice in the Temple. The animal isn't human, nor would a mere creation of God be sufficient to remove any sins in an individual. The Jews were directed to perform this act as a sign of piety that points to the Sacrifice that would work.
The sins of all mankind couldn't be reconciled with anything earthly. To atone for man, it would take a sacrifice of infinite worth. God the Son fit that bill. To incarnate him as Man, a perfect one at that, also fit the need.
Christ could not sin, nor the Father, and neither are entirely human. So the rabbi's argument does not apply to God Himself.