[quote=flameburns623] I can’t cite any specific authority for what I’ve written in this thread. I am communicating perceptions and attitudes more than any specific doctrine or teaching of any denomination. I can only point to the extreme antipathy towards even the sort of language that speaks of ‘saying a prayer’ rather than simply ‘praying’. I have heard radio preachers declaim rather loudly against ever ‘reciting’ the Lord’s Prayer. The argument seems to be pretty much as I rendered it above: prayer, by it’s nature, must be extemporaneous to be genuine. On the other hand, these are the same kinds of Protestants who pray publicly using all sorts of catch-phrases and cliches.
You’ll recall the line in Hucklebery Finn, where his foster-mother was pressuring him to give up smoking tobacco: “Of course, the Widow Jones used snuff; but that was alright, because she done it”. :rotfl:
The problem seems to be that no one has ever really defined what kinds of ‘vain repetions’ the ‘heathens’ were engaging in, which ‘by their much speaking’ they hoped to be heard. (cf Mathew 6:7, the popular proof-text agains the Rosary).
Thankyou, it does not seem like they have much proof to back themselves up.
[quote=flameburns623] Which ones? High-church Anglicans stress their affinity to Anglo-Catholicism and would be virtually indistinguishable from rather conservative Roman Catholics–particularly Roman Catholics using an English translation of the Tridentine Rite, since most Anglo-Catholics prefer the 1928 or some earlier version of the Book of Common Prayer. Many Anglo-Catholics pray the Rosary much the same way as Roman Catholics. Typically, an Episcopalian Rosary may add the Doxology to the Our Father ("For Thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, Forever and Ever), but may drop the second half of the Hail Mary (“Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death”), simply in the interest of peaceableness. (Modifications typically are also made to the Glorious Mysteries, since the Assumption of Mary and Coronation of Mary are also subjects of controversy).
Low-church Anglicans emphasize their roots as a Protestant denomination, although the Book of Common Prayer does not specifically preclude the idea that those in Heaven can pray for us upon Earth, nor that we cannot ask that they pray on our behalf. Typically such things are played down in public worship and treated as personal or private devotions.
Thankyou for the info. So the High Anglicans are basically Catholic and the Low are protestant in belief. I hear that the Anglican church may be splitting into two churches. Is this the way they are spliting, into the low and high Anglican?
[quote=flameburns623]Most of my experence with Anglicanism is in conservative, schismatic Anglican groups. I don’t know what the liberals in the Episcopal Church, USA (ECUSA) do. My sense is that in ECUSA they sometimes sacrifice babies to the Madona while dancing skyclad. :bigyikes:But as I say I’ve only attended one ECUSA service, years ago. Typically, where you find three Episcopalians you’ll find four opinions. And where you find four Episcopalians, you’ll often find a Fifth. Usually named Jack Daniels. And of course I’m being humorous;) .