And where are all these places where He even mentioned the word abortion? Don’t bother. As I doubt you’d be the first Biblical scholar to find “abortion” mentioned in Scripture.
[quote][SIGN]You guys like to add to Scripture don’t you?
I believe LilyM is being facetious. She is not saying that she is unclear about the meaning of “Thou shall not kill”, nor does she believe that the word “abortion” can be found in the Bible. Her statement is ironic.
Regarding my opinion to the topic, the diversity of cultures in our Country has forced us to become empathetic and tolerant of ethnic variations as a means to remain united. Remember the Civil War? This forbearance became a major requirement for the survival of One Nation under God with liberty and justice for all. It is referred to as “freedom”, “inalienable rights”, and “independence”, even though we have an entire Justice System who identifies their social responsibility to be that of amending our founders’ original declarations to accommodate of increasingly contemporary concerns, no matter how far from the true intentions they land, under the auspices of inclusive diversity.
Western Culture’s concept of an ideal civilization includes attributes like “open-minded”, “accepting”, and “non-judgemental” to define the perfect social member. The conundrum is that an ideal can never be attained—it’s the proverbial carrot on the stick–and somewhere in the mid-80’s to mid-90’s all these virtues for which we were told to strive got overwhelming, but because having them somehow qualified one as enlightened, we pretended to be aiming at the perfect ideal. Everything was moving so fast we just got swept along. We were tired working 12 hour days to buy the houses, the cars, the clothes, the vacations, and all the other things we couldn’t afford to support the consumer mentality that to ensure the survival of a Capitalist Society, that we lost our own opinions…our own morals…
HOWEVER, even though many issues in life can be argued, some things we just know. For example, although the hypothetical quandary about the “tree falling in the woods with nobody around…” and the “chicken or the egg?” can be amusing banter when bored, we all know deep down in the recesses of our primal knowledge that yes, the tree did make a sound, and that you can’t get an egg without a chicken. Some things we just know. How many people are able to watch those sad, gut wrenching commercials of animals living in atrocious settings, or the manner in which livestock are herded into slaughterhouses? Like me, everybody I ask divert their attention away from the TV screen as soon as they Sarah McLaughlin begin singing “In the Arms Of An Angel”…. We are sickened because we just know.
Thus, every for-all-intents-and-purposes-sane human being who is able to believe some things without being able to concretely verify them, and who is able to recognize and commiserate with the pain and agony of pets and livestock, knows that abortion is indeed murder.
We could be politically correct and say that abortion is a means of “termination”, or that “abortion ceases the gestational phase of an embryo or fetus”, or that “the pregnancy was concluded by induced expiration of the uterine contents”, but still we know.
So, with regard to “Where are Catholics going wrong?”, it is easy to see that we have been indoctrinated by means of over-work, self-preservation, and fear tactics, into tired, greedy, distrustful, apathetic relativists in jeopardy of loosing all inherent moral integrity because we irrationally distort the intent of “Freedom”.
It isn’t Catholics who have gone wrong—people have—some of who, for one reason or another, still think they’re practicing Catholics. Ignorance requires enlightenment. The hard core TRUTH with regard to the “Club Rules” is no longer available to the average, exhausted, empty, disinterested, skeptical politically correct lemmings . Those who chose the life to serve have confused the term with “to please”, “to placate”, “to pacify”, “to keep the collection basket full so the Parish will stay open”, “to not rock the boat”, “to get ‘em in and get ‘em out because I have 4 Masses on Sunday”….We need Shepherds who will act decisively when the wolf is circling the flock. We don’t need buddies, we need Fathers. The flock is all confused. Some think they are the Shepherd. I have a friend who actually believes she is an American Catholic, (i.e. modern, contemporary) as opposed to a European Catholic (more traditional, quaint) and is completely [self] assured that both “ways” are sanctioned, albeit somewhat in a sort of clandestine acknowledgement. If there are “Free-to-be-You-and-Me”, live-and-let-live, pro-choice, individuals sitting in pews actually believing they are members of the Roman Catholic Religion, it is not their un-catechized, un-formed, ignorant brain’s fault. When Religious were teachers in Catholic Schools no one graduated not knowing the magisterial teachings of the Faith (granted the methods of communicating the message tended to vary from one Sister to the next,:eek: but we knew…). However, the “guys” started bending the rules, the women left the convents, the schools closed, nobody was left to do the literal teaching, and here we are today. There are few Priests left who have the backbone to grab the lead lemmings and point them in the right direction, especially if their Bishop happens to be one of those at the head of the pack. The flock needs to be fed because they’re already scattering to search on their own. I have been blessed to find such a no-holds-barred Priest, but it took a lot of looking. If you too have been thus Graced, invite your friends to join you for Sunday Mass. Catholicism and abortion are not about relativism and personal interpretations.
That’s what I think.