nudity


#1

I want to get one thing straight. Is looking at a playboy a mortal sin? Or could it be venial? If so what type of nudity is not sinful? I am interested in esthetics the study of beauty. The beauty of a child learning their 123s and when I consider the beauty of the opposite sex it's had to determine lust from beauty. Of course beauty includes more than looks but the person themselves. Should this be under philosophy?


#2

Do you mean seeing the cover of playboy in a store or purchasing it?


#3

[quote="billcu1, post:1, topic:312799"]
I want to get one thing straight. Is looking at a playboy a mortal sin? Or could it be venial? If so what type of nudity is not sinful? I am interested in esthetics the study of beauty. The beauty of a child learning their 123s and when I consider the beauty of the opposite sex it's had to determine lust from beauty. Of course beauty includes more than looks but the person themselves. Should this be under philosophy?

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If it's Playboy it's porn.

If it's in the Sistine Chapel it's art.

And not because one is Playboy and one is the Vatican, but because of the way the female form is depicted: as sexual plaything/object to be desired, or as a person with dignity.


#4

[quote="triumphguy, post:3, topic:312799"]
If it's Playboy it's porn.

If it's in the Sistine Chapel it's art.

And not because one is Playboy and one is the Vatican, but because of the way the female form is depicted: as sexual plaything/object to be desired, or as a person with dignity.

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If it's porn it's mortal sin right?


#5

[quote="billcu1, post:4, topic:312799"]
If it's porn it's mortal sin right?

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If it's porn it's grave matter.

Your knowledge and free consent to sin play a part too.


#6

[quote="billcu1, post:4, topic:312799"]
If it's porn it's mortal sin right?

[/quote]

Yes it is and yes it is.

Catechism:

2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

scborromeo.org/ccc/p3s2c2a6.htm#III


#7

Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI

  1. When does one commit a mortal sin?

1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.

  1. When does one commit a venial sin?

1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

  1. What are the principal sins against chastity?

2351-2359
2396

Grave sins against chastity differ according to their object: adultery, masturbation, fornication, pornography, prostitution, rape, and homosexual acts. These sins are expressions of the vice of lust. These kinds of acts committed against the physical and moral integrity of minors become even more grave.


#8

It’s always of grave matter to purchase it in any case.


#9

Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI

  1. When does one commit a mortal sin?

1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.

  1. When does one commit a venial sin?

1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html

  1. What are the principal sins against chastity?

2351-2359
2396

Grave sins against chastity differ according to their object: adultery, masturbation, fornication, pornography, prostitution, rape, and homosexual acts. These sins are expressions of the vice of lust. ...

(Note well: mortal sin and grave sin and serious sin are interchangable terms --they refer to the same sin)


#10

[quote="billcu1, post:1, topic:312799"]
I want to get one thing straight. Is looking at a playboy a mortal sin?

[/quote]

This is grave matter known as pornography. It is a sin against the sixth commandment.

[quote="billcu1, post:1, topic:312799"]

Or could it be venial?

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It could be venial, for someone who really did not know it was wrong. Or someone who accidentaly saw it-- for example, walks into a room where Playboy magazine is open to the ceenterfold on the coffee table. (provided they turn away, of course).

[quote="billcu1, post:1, topic:312799"]
If so what type of nudity is not sinful?

[/quote]

The kind your doctor sees.


#11

[quote="1ke, post:10, topic:312799"]
This is grave matter known as pornography. It is a sin against the sixth commandment.

It could be venial, for someone who really did not know it was wrong. Or someone who accidentaly saw it-- for example, walks into a room where Playboy magazine is open to the ceenterfold on the coffee table. (provided they turn away, of course).

The kind your doctor sees.

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The kind the Cardinals see in the Sistine Chapel.:p


#12

There's nothing wrong with nude art depicting the aesthetics of the human body. I have created some nude sketches myself of the female body but none of them are in compromising positions or where something sexual is implied. What's more, I'm inspired by paintings.

Playboy though is different because as another poster pointed out, the women are depicted as objects for sexual gratification. You can by all means use them as inspiration though if you're an artist but I'd recommend against it. The best way to avoid lust is by avoiding such suggestive material altogether.


#13

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