Nursing home residents stage heartbreaking protest outside facility: 'Rather die from COVID than loneliness'

These Elderly Say They Are Dying of Loneliness Want Human Contact Back . . . .

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NEWS OCTOBER 12, 2020

Nursing home residents stage heartbreaking protest outside facility: ‘Rather die from COVID than loneliness’

Elderly Say They Are Dying of Loneliness Want Human Contact Back

Residents of a long-term nursing and rehabilitation facility in Colorado organized a protest against the state’s COVID-19 restrictions on Thursday.

What are the details?

According to KCNC-TV, the protest took place at Fairacres Manor in Greeley.

The station reported that many of the facility’s residents — many of them in wheelchairs — stood outside of the facility and held signs that read “Rather die from COVID than loneliness,” “Give us freedom,” “Prisoners in our own home,” and more. . . .

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Gotta tip my hat to these oldsters. They have a lot more courage and rational balance than a lot of young, healthy people I know.

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By going outside into sunlight and fresh air and protesting their virtual incarceration? That’s selfish? All kinds of people risk their lives more closely than this, and yet they do it because they’re not so jealous of their own little lives that they won’t do anything useful with them.

And do you think the staff aren’t exposed to those people and plenty of others outside the nursing home as well?

Guess like those “selfish” soldiers, sailors, police and fire who risk their lives, these people are to be condemned.

“And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit unto the measure of his life?” Matt 6:27

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I think it’s obvious the preferred result of such a protest is relaxing of visitor restrictions…right?

Meaning more risk of exposure than is already present for all those involved. Staff and resident alike.

Using your point of view, the people who work at the nursing home should never go to the store, never go to a restaurant, and should never interact with people outside of the nursing home, because to do so would be selfish, right?

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These residents could always move out if they don’t like the rules.

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The charity is virtually tangible there…

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Why? The nursing home is setting up rules to best protect ALL of their residents as well as their staff. If the residents don’t like it, and I am guessing that it’s just a few that don’t, then they can leave. Nursing homes are mostly private businesses, so they have a right to set up these rules. The resident can go somewhere else to find their freedoms.

Honestly nursing homes range between poorly to very well run and some are great and some are shambolic and old people are not prisoners and shouldn’t be treated as such. They are still humans, there seems to be a model worryingly borrowed from American of ‘stick the old ones in a nursing home till they pop their clogs’ which is taking route over here in the UK and many places in Europe. Nursing homes have their uses and where people really can’t cope any more are great but so long as people can care for themselves or some member of family is there to help they are usually better of at home. Someone started suggesting to my from my local authority I should stick my father in a home now he is elderly as this would free up time for me, this was on a hospital visit with him. He is still quite capable of doing most things for himself and I politely declined and when they got pushy told them it wasn’t part of my culture since our local authorities love to tell us how ‘multi-cultural’ they are constantly and stand around waving banners about that. I know very well if he goes into a home within six months he will be in a coffin.

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They aren’t prisoners, but there are rules they are expected to follow during a pandemic. They can leave if they don’t like the rules.

Their “virtual incarceration” is exactly what Trump supporters here have recommended. I can’t count the number of times we heard that “Young people should be allowed to get back to work unencumbered by mask mandates, etc., and get back to ordinary life. Only those who are more vulnerable should be protected.” Well, if the rest of the world is running around spreading covid as if they haven’t a care in the world, that means the “more vulnerable” have no choice but to remain in their virtual incarceration. Isn’t that what we hear? Covid is only dangerous to the old and those with pre-existing conditions? Well, this is the consequence of that kind of thinking.

On the other hand, if young people were to take more communal responsibility for limiting the infection rate and make the outside world safer for those in nursing homes, maybe they would not have to resort to such extreme isolation.

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LeafByNiggle . . .

Their “virtual incarceration” is exactly what Trump supporters here have recommended.

I can only speak for this “Trump supporter” but that’s a half truth.

I have advocated taking the extreme measures with the elderly and sick (i.e. immunosupressed).
But I likewise have also advocated them making their own choices too.

(The thread is not about me, but I am an immune suppressed individual and choose not to live “holed-up”. Let them choose.)

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Generally I would agree that those in nursing homes be allowed to have greater say over their own care. (If I find myself in a nursing home, one of the first things I will start doing is devising an escape plan - just in case.)

However in this case the decisions they make affect not only themselves but all the other residents of the facility. Remember the New York nursing home fiasco you were so vocal about? The point was that covid spreads rapidly in nursing homes, and it is dangerous to place residents who are infectious because it is so hard to contain the outbreak once it begins. If a resident makes the decision to hug her family members and otherwise “get intimate” with them (meaning visiting closer than 6 feet for an extended period of time) that resident is endangering not only herself, but all the other residents of the facility, just like we found out in New York. The Colorado positivity rate is almost 5% and rising, so the chances are that after 20 hugs with random family members, someone at the facility is going to get covid, then the whole facility will be at risk. When the consequences of one’s decision affects only that one person, we might be more inclined to give that person the freedom to make whatever choice he or she wants. But when the consequences affect all those in the facility, we need to be more careful about allowing such decisions.

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Sounds like someone has the TV in the day room turned into FOX news.

Seems likely to me these nursing homes could sequester those who want it but allow visitation to those who are willing to take the risk. They do sequester highly disabled Alzheimer’s patients in any nursing home of any size. I don’t see why they couldn’t allow more contact for some and more protection for others. For goodness sake, if we’re going to provide unlimited health care for illegal aliens, why not do a little better for our own citizens?

False choice.

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We are social creatures. I have read mentions before of how social interaction with others can reduce stress and lengthen a persons life.

Seems likely to me it’s up the nursing homes. If the people living in the nursing homes don’t like the rules there, they can move elsewhere.

Loneliness is worst than any illness.

Perhaps a way for us to get creative and do something about it. I am not sure what to do, but will pray for them.

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What does Cuomo ORDERING INFECTED patients INTO nursing homes have to do with people wanting to see their loved ones?

Nursing homes could screen patients (quick questionnaire and touchless forehead temps) before allowing them to enter. That’s what we have to do now when we go into the medical clinic here (sick people almost by definition) and people aren’t dying off like flies.
And especially now, when the nursing homes COULD even get a rapid corona virus test if you are so scared.

(Not “you” personally.)

My “vocal” statements also had to do with treating the patients.

Corona virus has treatment options that we now know about too. Aside from the hydroxychloroquine that YOU have been so vocal about wanting withheld from patients (on grounds that it has not been investigated enough) there are other treatment options too.

Let them make their own decisions.

However in this case the decisions they make affect not only themselves but all the other . . . .

You know where “decisions” effect “the other” most of all?

Yeah. With premeditated murder of unborn babies.

I want you and anyone else to always free to join me in calling out this monstrosity where people make decisions for other people that has virtually a hundred percent chance of KILLING those other people.

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They both are about risk of covid spreading through nursing homes.

Such tests would only catch the ones who would not have come in the first place. We know that covid patients can be infectious 24 hours before any symptoms are apparent. That that would not work. Probably a lot of the ex-covid patients that were sent to nursing homes in New York would have passed those cursory screens you mentioned.

That’s because when you go to a clinic, no one there hugs and kisses you like the visitors want to do at the nursing home. The medical staff are all in full PPE.

The rapid test (not the PCR test) has such a poor false negative rate it is almost useless.

You mean old people in nursing homes don’t have to worry about getting covid anymore? Nonsense.

Yes, you will notice that when the chips were down, Trump didn’t rely on his precious HCQ. He went for Remdesivir - the one that all the Trump supporters were criticizing for being an overly expensive drug pushed by “big pharma.” (Plus Trump took an experimental antibody treatment, steriods, and, for all I know, drank essense of Gelfling.)

…no relevant response from Cathoholic. Only a deflection to abortion.

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