Obama tells Britain no hard feelings over spill

Obama tells Britain no hard feelings over spill
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_oil_spill_us_britain

LONDON – President Barack Obama reassured Prime Minister David Cameron on Saturday that his frustration over the mammoth oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is not an attack on Britain as the two leaders tried to soothe trans-Atlantic tensions over the disaster.

Cameron’s Downing St. office said the two leaders held a “warm and constructive” telephone conversation for more than 30 minutes.

Obama has recently sharpened his criticism of BP PLC as the company struggles to stop millions of gallons of oil gushing from its ruptured deep-sea well. Cameron is under pressure to get Obama to tone down the rhetoric against of a major British company, fearing it will hurt millions of Britons — as well as many Americans — who hold BP stock in investments and pension plans……

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Did the Silver-tongue smoothed things over? Do ya think they bought it? Saying one thing on this side of the pond-another to them over there? Did he say the “arse” word?

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Love, Dawn

[quote="DawnInTexas, post:1, topic:201771"]

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Did the Silver-tongue smoothed things over? *Do ya think they bought it? * Saying one thing on this side of the pond-another to them over there? Did he say the "arse" word?

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+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn

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No. I don't think anyone over here bought it.

The company is not called British Petroleum anymore because it is not primarily in British hands, the shares are spread out across the globe including heavy investment in the US. The company ceased to be British Petroleum and became BP in 1998 when it merged with Amoco, an American company. Around 40% of BP shares are held by UK shareholders, and 39% are held by US share-holders. It is as much a US company as a UK one and up to this time the US has done very nicely out of BP's enormous profit margins.

Obama's insistence on calling it British Petroleum is seen here as a guilt-pitch to get Britain to pay for the clean-up. BP will have to pay for the clean-up the same way that Amoco paid $120 million in damages to France for the Amoco Cadiz disaster in 1978. ($550 million taking inflation into account since 1978)

What is silly is that if President Obama carries on this way and BP goes under, then who will pay to put things right? It won't be Britain because BP is no longer in the UK's hands as it was in it's early days. If it goes under, not only will it not be able to pay for the clean up (as it should!) but millions and millions of people the world over will loose their pensions - including many in the US whose pension funds have invested heavily in BP.

The new Prime Minister Cameron is not on a leash to Washington the way Blair and Brown used to be. My guess is he will have listened politely, said "whatever", and that was that. He also has to take into consideration the views of his coalition partners in government who swing more towards Europe than the USA.

Having said all that I can totally empathise with the US, both President Obama and the American people, over the frustrations with regard to Tony Hayward. He has said some rediculous things and needs to pull his socks up and get in there in engaging with the American government on a better level.

The UK, as a country, is certainly not unsympathetic to what is happening and it makes our news daily, and not just as a footnote, there are in-depth reports and footage to show the devastation the spill is causing. We've had enough oil spills around our own shores caused by companies from all over the world in order to have some idea of what this is causing the gulf coast....though nothing (not even the Torrey Canyon spill) can compare to the size of this disaster nor the impact it is causing life, limb and the eco-system.

Certainly, taking the example of the Exxon Valdez as a bench-mark, this will take decades to put right, if it ever can be. The satallite pictures of the oil are horrific. The tragedy is enormous, and I can only feel for the those caught up in it and pray.

Good post. Puts things into the right perspective.

I certainly hope so!

After all, when Obama was elected, (some) Media showed some folks around the world (Europe included) calling him the “President of the world.”

Those of us who see through his Agenda were hoping the world wasn’t hoodwinked, like many citizens of our own Country were. are.

God Bless.
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Love, Dawn

[quote="DawnInTexas, post:4, topic:201771"]
I certainly hope so!

After all, when Obama was elected, (some) Media showed some folks around the world (Europe included) calling him the "President of the world."

Those of us who see through his Agenda were hoping the world wasn't hoodwinked, like many citizens of our own Country were. are.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn

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I think we were all pretty intrigued as to what he was going to do, being such a departure from George Bush.

But the political cooling off between the governments of the UK and USA has been going on for some time now, certainly since President Obama's election and many here think it will continue with our new coalition government who (thanks to the Liberal-Democratic Party contingent) are very European focused.

Not me. I wasn’t intrigued-I was horrified, as a Serious, Practicing Catholic. Our Bishops put out guidelines for Voters-to no avail. Many Catholics of Today don’t know their Faith, nor are obedient to the Bishops of our Church when it comes to Faith and Morals.

No, we saw it coming-and knew what was happening. Now, we’re watching it unfold…

…and praying to God that this Administration (is limited in the damage it is wreaking) and that it ends with the subsequent elections.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn

[quote="Netty1, post:5, topic:201771"]
I think we were all pretty intrigued as to what he was going to do, being such a departure from George Bush.

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International polls seemed to show an overwhelming preference of Obama over McCain. I believe most polls still show Obama to be more popular abroad than at home.

As far as fiscal matters go, though, Obama seems to be continuing George Bush's disastrous policies of borrowing too much. I don't expect this to change, no matter what happens this fall. Both parties are equally inept on being able to solve problems.

[quote="DawnInTexas, post:6, topic:201771"]
Not me. I wasn't intrigued-I was horrified, as a Serious, Practicing Catholic. Our Bishops put out guidelines for Voters-to no avail. Many Catholics of Today don't know their Faith, nor are obedient to the Bishops of our Church when it comes to Faith and Morals.

No, we saw it coming-and knew what was happening. Now, we're watching it unfold...

...and praying to God that this Administration (is limited in the damage it is wreaking) and that it ends with the subsequent elections.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn

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[quote="ProVobis, post:7, topic:201771"]
International polls seemed to show an overwhelming preference of Obama over McCain. I believe most polls still show Obama to be more popular abroad than at home.

As far as fiscal matters go, though, Obama seems to be continuing George Bush's disastrous policies of borrowing too much. I don't expect this to change, no matter what happens this fall. Both parties are equally inept on being able to solve problems.

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I'm quite a recent convert to Catholicism so this is the first election (here in the UK) where I've voted having to take into consideration someone else (God!) rather than my personal preference. The thought of consulting a priest or seeking out the opinion of the dioscesan Bishop would not have come into it for me before now. It changed the whole way I looked at things. Taking into account their counsel certainly was an event for me!

I'm not sure though why Obama has been so popular away from the US, other than perhaps (in Europe certainly) a back-lash against the Bush administration for the Gulf and Afghanistan military campaigns. Maybe it was just the appeal of something new.

I was aware that Obama has long been critical of the UK on a personal level due to his family history, that was well-covered here during his election campaign, but it is only now that seems to be seeping into his open political rhetoric.

Incidentally, it was reported in the news here today that BP has more American employees than any other single group of workers, including Brits. So if it goes under it will be Americans who loose their jobs and also more Americans who will loose their pensions. Maybe this is something President Obama should think about before he does any more to make a bad situation worse.

It has also broken over here that two American companies are involved but are not being targeted by Obama - Halliburton and Transocean. Also there is a company called Cameron International who manufactured the blow-out mechanism which failed, but which has also escaped censure so far.

You might find this an interesting read...... dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286398/BP-OIL-SPILL-Its-Obamas-anti-British-rhetoric-needs-capped.html

What should be paramount now, in my mind, is how to put this right and repair the damage to the earth which has been given into our care, rather than the name-calling and such being indulged in by the politicians.

[quote="Netty1, post:8, topic:201771"]
I'm quite a recent convert to Catholicism so this is the first election (here in the UK) where I've voted having to take into consideration someone else (God!) rather than my personal preference. The thought of consulting a priest or seeking out the opinion of the dioscesan Bishop would not have come into it for me before now. It changed the whole way I looked at things. Taking into account their counsel certainly was an event for me!

I'm not sure though why Obama has been so popular away from the US, other than perhaps (in Europe certainly) a back-lash against the Bush administration for the Gulf and Afghanistan military campaigns. Maybe it was just the appeal of something new.

I was aware that Obama has long been critical of the UK on a personal level due to his family history, that was well-covered here during his election campaign, but it is only now that seems to be seeping into his open political rhetoric.

Incidentally, it was reported in the news here today that BP has more American employees than any other single group of workers, including Brits. So if it goes under it will be Americans who loose their jobs and also more Americans who will loose their pensions. Maybe this is something President Obama should think about before he does any more to make a bad situation worse.

It has also broken over here that two American companies are involved but are not being targeted by Obama - Halliburton and Transocean. Also there is a company called Cameron International who manufactured the blow-out mechanism which failed, but which has also escaped censure so far.

You might find this an interesting read...... dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1286398/BP-OIL-SPILL-Its-Obamas-anti-British-rhetoric-needs-capped.html

What should be paramount now, in my mind, is how to put this right and repair the damage to the earth which has been given into our care, rather than the name-calling and such being indulged in by the politicians.

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He is ruining our Country, Netty.

However-Looking at things through Religious Glasses, he is the President our Country deserved. Homosexuality is paraded in our streets. 3500+ babies are shredded in their mothers' womb each day (50 million+ since it was legalized in 1973). Babies are conceived in petri dishes, and experimented on-before being dumped into the trash.

Our Country is steeped in sin.

Father John Corapi is a very important Priest. He had a warning Video for the United States before this election-called the Eleventh Hour Election Alert (in 3 parts):
youtube.com/user/FatherCorapi#p/u
<-Click show all on the right hand side, and scroll down.

"Wake Up America" is a wake-up call to our Country.
New War/Old War explains what's happening on the other side of the Veil-the battle for souls that we cannot see on a regular basis (it bursts beyond the Veil at times).

A very important "Saint" in these days, these times right now, Father Corapi.

In one of his e-mails came this message (below). The one sentence in bold is-emphasis mine:

EQUALITY
By Fr. John Corapi

We have passed the threshold into one of the most important weeks in American history, and a convergence of three very important celebrations reminds us of it. Yesterday we celebrated the remembrance of Dr. Martin Luther King, who worked so heroically and tirelessly to insure that all men and women might share in the American dream equally. Today we celebrate the inauguration of the first African American president, Barack Obama. That an African American can be so elected is indeed a cause to celebrate. However, Thursday we pray and do penance on the anniversary of the most infamous court decision in United States history, Roe v. Wade. All three are related.

Dr. King fought long and hard and suffered many things that all men and women in the United States of America might enjoy those truths that we hold to be self evident: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. He was an American hero for so doing. This week we should rightly celebrate the fact that an African American can be and has been elected President of the United States. This is surely progress, both political and moral.

This all being said, it has to plague the conscience of any thinking person that in this country there is yet the most immoral and deadly form of prejudice and persecution imaginable against the most innocent and vulnerable class of human beings—the unwanted unborn. No matter what advances this country makes, moral, economic, social, or technological, so long as that blight on our national identity remains, all else will ultimately pale into relative insignificance.

God is not a disinterested spectator in the affairs of man. He knows every child by name from all eternity. He loves each one with His infinite love. God’s holy Catholic Church teaches that abortion in a single case is homicide. I assert that if this is the case, and it is, then the 50,000,000 homicides through abortion that have taken place in the United States since Roe v. Wade constitute genocide. God will not favor such a country, regardless of any other progress. Unless this outrage against God and humanity is stopped very soon, the United States of America, and in turn all of the Western world, will realize the death wish that it has manifest for several decades.

Every Catholic, Christian, Jew, and all people of good will and right reason must pray and do penance rigorously and daily from now on for the defeat of this heinous evil we call abortion. If we fail, then Western society as we know it will soon collide with a disaster it will not survive.

May God have mercy on us.

Fr. John Corapi, SOLT

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn

And, another thing—The Liberals in our Country have perverted “The Separation of Church and State.” It was meant for those who were fleeing European Countries where Religion was dictated-so they could worship as they pleased, or not at all-here, in the Land of the Free.

The Spin they put on this beautiful belief-is removing God from our Government, our Schools, our Public Squares.

A Godless nation, is what we’re becoming.

Boy Oh Boy—God allows His children to wallow in the squallor they make for themselves for awhile-before He corrects them, and calls them back to Himself.

I believe if we don’t get down on our knees-we will be driven to our knees.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn

[quote="DawnInTexas, post:10, topic:201771"]
And, another thing---The Liberals in our Country have perverted "The Separation of Church and State." It was meant for those who were fleeing European Countries where Religion was dictated-so they could worship as they pleased, or not at all-here, in the Land of the Free.

The Spin they put on this beautiful belief-is removing God from our Government, our Schools, our Public Squares.

A Godless nation, is what we're becoming.

Boy Oh Boy---God allows His children to wallow in the squallor they make for themselves for awhile-before He corrects them, and calls them back to Himself.

I believe if we don't get down on our knees-we will be driven to our knees.

God Bless.
+Jesus, I Trust In You.
Love, Dawn

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It's not a pleasant thing to have to tell you that the situation is the same here in the UK. All of the God-less things you named as happening in the US are happening here too and our politicians "fiddle while Rome burns" (to use an old saying here).

Anyone who declares their faith in Christ is instantly a target for any number of "interest groups" who seek to shut us up. I've taken a lot of heart from watching how other more experienced Catholics (both cradle Catholics and converts) deal with these situations, how they stay strong, stay focused on their prayers and living the best example they can be to those who are lost.

I like the sentence you emphasised from Fr. Corapi:

"God is not a disinterested spectator in the affairs of man."

This is so true. He is watching. No matter what every soul in this world does, every one of us will have to answer to God. There is no hiding place, be we president or pauper.

Thank you for the link to his videos on youtube. I'll watch them later this evening before my final prayers of the day.:thumbsup:

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