One-Fifth of New Enrollees Under Health Care Law Fail to Pay First Premium

From the New York Times (of all places):

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Lindy Wagner, a spokeswoman for Blue Shield of California, said that 80 percent of those who signed up for its plans had paid by the due date, Jan. 15…

Matthew N. Wiggin, a spokesman for Aetna, said that about 70 percent of people who signed up for its health plans paid their premiums…

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Kristin E. Binns, a vice president of WellPoint, said that 76 percent of people selecting its health plans on an exchange had paid their share of the first month’s premium by the due date of Jan. 31…

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One big company, Humana, said it had received 200,000 applications for insurance through the exchanges. “About 75 percent of the people paid, and 25 percent did not pay…"
Also see this from CBS:

More young people enrolling in Obamacare, but numbers still lag

…Still, as of Feb. 1, just 25 percent of people who have enrolled in a private insurance plan through the new Obamacare marketplaces are between the ages of 18 and 34 – falling below what experts have called the ideal proportion of young adults in the new health insurance marketplace…

Since those who have signed up (whether they’ve paid or not) are generally not the “young invicibles” that were predicted and are necessary to maintain premium rates, it will be very interesting to see how many people renege on their premiums once the premiums are adjusted up later this year (to be implemented next year).

So assuming the 80% number is accurate, that means approximately 2.64 million Americans have signed up and paid for Obamacare.

Compare that to the over 4.7 million people who lost their insurance because of Obamacare (oh, by the way, those are people who had individual insurance plans ONLY)

That’s a net 2.1 million lost.

And that doesn’t include those who had their hours cut at their employers and those whose employers dropped their plans for part time help (even if those plans were not comprehensive, they were something), and so on.

Gotta love this universal health insurance that Obama and the Democrats have given us…

This is not universal health insurance. Why are you gleeful that people don’t have health insurance then when they get sick they are left to die? Is that a teaching from Jesus, the Apostles or the Church?

Well, not exactly.

More than 1 million enrollees are actually government employees who were forced to sign-up for the exchanges, therefore, we have to add them to the 4.7 million who lost their health insurance due to the law–either that, or subtract them from the 2.6 million who have signed-up.

Excuse my ignorance, but I certainly do not recall reading a teaching from Jesus, the Apostles, or the Church Fathers calling for the government to mandate people have health insurance, particularly health insurance that has “minimum acceptable coverage” that includes abortion, artificial contraception, and sterilization.

But you are more than welcome to provide me a Scriptural quote to show where I’m wrong.

No one is gleeful that they don’t have health insurance.

This is about the fact that the law which was rammed-down the throats of the American people is proving to be an absolute failure.

If you are upset (rather than gleeful) about the fact that the government has taken away health insurance from millions of people, you should address that concern to the ones who did the taking. The problem is that they aren’t listening. They weren’t listening when they forced this law to pass, and they’re not listening now.

VERY well said. This frustration with nobody listening is why the Tea Party started.

Even before ACA, people in America were not “left to die” simply because they didn’t have health insurance. Health insurance and health care are two different things. The very existence of Christian charities, of the which the Catholic ones are probably the largest and are now under full assault by the federal government, is evidence that Americans typically do not allow people to die because they don’t have insurance.

But here’s an interesting point; we were told that ACA was needed because 44 million Americans were without insurance. Today, 4 1/2 months after its start, the overwhelming vast majority of them apparently still don’t have health insurance. Instead, the impact of ACA has been to deprive people of the insurance policies they wanted and needed. Is that the teaching of Christ, the Apostles, and the Church? Of course not, but it was the intent of the act all along to drive as many people as possible into the exchanges.

Jon

Big AMEN…

This does not surprise me, The plan I looked at was close to $250 month, but luckily I am able to keep my plan I had before with my employer, keep in mind, benefits are roughly the same on both plans, but I only pay $16. week for my employer plan!!!

Im still not sure how they can call this the affordable care act…it is anything but affordable!

I was scared I may have to switch plans, but I never received a notice, so I guess I got lucky, or slipped thru the cracks!

If you are upset (rather than gleeful) about the fact that the government has taken away health insurance from millions of people, you should address that concern to the ones who did the taking. The problem is that they aren’t listening. They weren’t listening when they forced this law to pass, and they’re not listening now.

As long as Catholics (along with Orthodox Jews, Muslims, socially conservative farmers and union workers and Christian African-Americans) vote Democrat, the Democrats do not have to listen.

If they have your vote locked away, why would they even bother with that person?

Why are you gleeful that people don’t have health insurance then

Not supporting a disaster like ObamaCare doesn’t mean one wants a person to not have insurance.

Those who are so concerned should offer financial assistance from their own pockets more and avoid lecturing others on emotional American leftists talking points. :thumbsup:

when they get sick they are left to die? Is that a teaching from Jesus, the Apostles or the Church?

Funny, I thought liberals wanted government and religion separate. :smiley:

Bravo Mark, Bravo!

Give 'em heck!

Glenda

Hey Mike. Thanks for sharing.

Look in the cracks to see if your insurance plan got modified to cover abortion, sterilization and contraception and when. Under ACA all plans have to cover these things. And you’re only charged $16 per week. Ain’t it grand? No matter whose plan you got, you get to fund indirectly abortions and sterilizations and contraceptive plans for those who use such things. Share and share alike.

What happened to the land of the free and the home of the brave?

Glenda

Good point, Padre.

Having said that, unlike us normal mortals, they had, regardless of their pay grade, 80% of their premiums subsidized by us mere mortals.

In the rest of the country, mortals making more than 400% of the federal poverty level (that would be $46,680 for a single person, $95,400 for a family of four) would be subject to paying the full amount of the premium. Those making less would have their premiums subsidized by taxpayers so that it wouldn’t exceed a certain percentage of their income. Not so with federal employees: a GS-15 making $135,000 per year would have his insurance premiums subsidized just as a GS-7 making $46,000 per year.

(biting sarcasm follows)

That’s why it’s great to be a member of the nomenklatura in our great socialist republic.

(biting sarcasm ends)

(Apparently there are some who can’t detect sarcasm no matter how obvious)

No, instead people were either left to declare bankruptcy due to medical expenses and/or drive up medical costs for everyone else because of non-payment.

I don’t understand why people treat the exchanges as some big bad government entity. Its just a website where people can compare plans offered by private insurance companies.

Perhaps because they started by spending half a billion dollars of taxpayer money on a website that didn’t even work…and that was just the start.

There are three things the government does well: fraud, waste, and abuse.

I don’t know about you, but whenever I spend half a billion dollars on something, I expect it to work. :rolleyes:

Well, if everyone were working and working for your employer, we wouldn’t have needed any health care reforms to begin with. But that’s not the real world. Just saying.

You gotta love a society where debating about being “forced” or not “forced” to enable something that God commanded (caring for the sick) seems to expend more energy than actually figuring out how to obey His command…:rolleyes:

What in the world does this have to do with caring for the sick? It seems to me that more of the sick are going to be worse off with this than before (not that before was a panacea by any means, mind you)

This is talking about the destruction of the medical system in this country.

What are Americans going to do when the deceit of this administration comes home!?:eek:

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