[quote="promethius, post:19, topic:271961"]
You don't have to disagree, you are both right but speaking to different things... one with a well formed conscience is ALWAYS able to know if they are in a state of grace... however, what he said is something different entirely...
Namely, that things constitute GRAVE MATTER, not that they are defined as mortal sins automatically, so there is never a case where one can look without totally understanding the position of the doer of the deed and objectively declare that an act was automatically and without any doubt whatsoever a mortal sin.
That is true, we cannot judge the culpability of others, we can only help them to discern from themselves based on what they tell us... but the reality is we will never know with certainty... only they will.
This is the way I view this issue as well.
I've attempted threads that address this issue. I believe it is quite obvious that the 60-90% (depending in your source of data) of catholics that miss Mass do not believe they are in mortal sin. Considering the only alternative to this is that they are not troubled by the idea of their skin burning off throughout all eternity.
Which means (logically speaking) that either they are unaware of the church's teaching on this matter (which I doubt. They'd have to have thier catholic head in the proverbial sand to not have heard that this is the church's teaching). Or they do not believe the church has the power/authority to so dogmatically profess such a thing.
Therefore it seems to me that the question IS NOT if a person is going to hell if they miss a Sunday Mass for no good reason. Rather the question IS why are so many catholics so unaware (or so quick to disregard) the teaching of the authority of the church (not the specific teaching, but the authority to teach the specific teaching)?
The question IS, does this disbelief of the church's authority lessen the 2nd or 3rd component, full knowledge/full consent therefore rendering the sin, not mortal?
I've blown this horn before and get few takers except for the pius who effectively suggest 60-90% (much more actually) of catholics and virtually all others, have a one way ticket to the oven.