Only Need To Believe In Creed To Be Catholic


#1

Hello! What do you think about this comment? Heard it from another Catholic, and would like any ideas as to how to respond.
Thank you for any ideas.
Prague


#2

That would probably cover the essentials from that perscpective of what to believe.

What it doesn’t do is cover the “doing” part. We must also obey Christ’s commands.


#3

It’s incorrect, and it’s a bizarre notion to boot. There seems to be a steady stream of people who want to know the Minimum Possible Catholicism. If the Church is what she claims to be, how does that make any sense? Do people want to know the Minimum Possible God? The Minimum Possible Bible? In their own lives do they want to know the Minimum Possible Wife (or Husband)? The Minimum Possible Children?

Minimum Possible Catholicism is like living on water and nutrient paste and rejecting all the pleasures and bounty that God gives us through food and drink. It is telling God “please keep 99% of your gifts and just give me the bare minimum”. Anybody think that’s a good idea? :rolleyes:

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#4

This is not an accurate assessment of the requirements of a Catholic.

Give them a Catechism.


#5

Those are the basics of the faith, no doubt, but it’s only a starting point. Yes, we affirm those basics truths every week at Mass, but that’s not all we do. We hear scripture readings and sermons that help us live a Christian life, and most importantly we are given the opportunity to receive Christ in Holy Communion. We have the opportunity to have our sins forgiven in the sacrament of Confession. We have nearly 2000 years of tradition and scholarship that we can draw on to assist us.

The Creed is where we begin our journey, but it is certainly not the end.


#6

Ah, but what does it mean to ‘believe in the creed’? For example, what does it mean to believe in ‘One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church’? Surely if one believes that all of the above is true of our Church then one must naturally assent to ALL its teachings - if one disagrees with any of 'em one is saying that the Church one believes in ISN’T One … or isn’t Holy … or isn’t Catholic … or isn’t Apostolic.


#7

Hello everyone: Thank you for your points and suggestions.
You have all given me some good ideas.
This person managed to get this idea from "Faith Essentials for Cathholics - The Creed"
Thomas Bokenkotter was the author!!!
I know all about him.
Thank you all again.


#8

That doesn’t make sense or it would mean the Lutherans and Methodists would be Catholics as they both use the exact wording of the Nicene and Apostles Creeds that we do.


#9

Where in the Creed does it say the Creed is the sole rule of faith?

:slight_smile:

Sola Credo is similar to Sola Scriptura. The Creed itself was ratified by the Magisterium and is drawn from Scripture and Tradition.


#10

In a sense, that’s true :slight_smile: - for what we profess to believe, is our creed.

And: everything we believe explicitly is, or should be, derivable from the deposit of faith; & the content of the DoP is expressed in the Creed

As to the Creed & our actions - the distinction between
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*]what we believe
*]what we do[/LIST]should be purely conceptual. In actuality, as we know, this is not the case :frowning: - but it should be. The more integrated the Christian - IOW, the less disintegrated the Christian - the less of a divide there will be between them. In the Sacred Humanity of Jesus, the disintegration is non-existent; He is an entirely whole(some) human being.

It may be significant that truth in the Bible is not something purely conceptual to believe, as though it were separable, in principle, from how one lives. This has many implications for faith: believing rightly & living rightly are not ultimately separable. That is why idolatry is denounced so unsparingly - false ideas of God lead to false ideas of how we ought to behave to God & our fellows. Bad doctrine leads to bad morals.

“We need only believe the Creed to be Catholic” can of course be taken in many wrong ways; as several posters point out - but that shouldn’t stop us seeing that it can be taken in a right way too :slight_smile: If in doubt, we ought to put the best construction on people’s words, & not the worst; FWIW, this is something St. Thomas does in the Summa on more than one occasion.

This may be of interest:
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*]http://www.religion-online.org/showchapter.asp?title=378&C=79[/LIST]Hope that helps


#11

Thank you all again. I have printed our your comments, and will re-type and give to this person.
Prague


#12

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