Our Lady of Good Success?

So I recently found about another approved apparition, Our Lady of Good Success. At least people claim it was approved by the local bishop and every bishop since then has renewed this approval.

During the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries there lived in Quito, Ecuador, a Spanish nun whose little-known but extraordinary life has a direct connection with our days. Mother Mariana of Jesus Torres y Berriochoa, a nun of the Conceptionist Order, surpassed the already strict discipline of her congregation in the traditional penances she undertook. Beyond even those, she lovingly accepted unprecedented sacrifices and sufferings directly asked of her by Our Lord and Our Lady.

Click here for a novena to Our Lady of Good Success

Her frequent contact with heavenly beings and her supernatural sufferings stand in such contrast to the ways of our impious century and are so extraordinary in themselves that a word needs to be said of their credentials.

Mother Mariana left a full written account of her life at the command of her superiors. This account was approved by the Most Reverend Pedro de Oviedo, Quito’s tenth bishop, who was privileged to know and direct her. Additionally, with fresh memories of all the extraordinary facts not only of her life but also of those of her eight holy companions, the Franciscan Fathers who had been their spiritual directors and brothers wrote their biographies.

In 1650, fifteen years after Mother Mariana’s death, Diego Rodríguez Docampo published a story of her life endorsed by an official document from the King of Spain and the Royal Court of Quito.

Between 1760 and 1770, after new facts and more abundant documentation surfaced, Fr. Bartholomew Ochoa de Alacano, O.F.M., a Spaniard living in Quito, published a series of articles that formed a large volume about Mother Mariana. This work received widespread circulation and enthusiastic response in the Franciscan monasteries of Spain and Portugal. This book includes chronicles from the convent and the sermon preached by Bishop Oviedo at Mother Mariana’s funeral.

In 1790, Fr. Manuel Souza Pereira, O.F.M., published an extensive work based on the earlier documents. Father Souza Pereira, of illustrious Portuguese lineage, joined the military as a young man. A series of Providential events and several apparitions of Mother Mariana of Jesus convinced him that his true calling was to the Franciscan Order. Later, having been sent to Quito, he became known there for the austerity of his life and solid virtue. A decisive moment for him was an invitation to accompany his Bishop into the Papal cloister where his holy protectress had lived and died. There he traced her footsteps and venerated her incorrupt body. With his heart aflame, he vowed not to rest until he had finished a complete account of what he was to title The Admirable Life of Mother Mariana of Jesus. It is largely on this account that we have based this article.

Has anyone heard of this? And does anyone know if its genuine?

I’ve looked at the references made in other articles for example on Tradition In Action and the Our Lady of Good Success website and I know the books exist but thats about it. I haven’t managed to find any ‘official’ sources approving or in fact saying anything on it. The closest I’ve come is a post on here the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com/2008/08/our-lady-of-good-success.html

It is not approved.


It is genuine and I have a book on it: Here is a link:


Yes I did see that thread but frankly it was quite unhelpful, there was no discussion of facts just ‘schismatics support it, it must be wrong and that woman made it all up’ I was hoping for some facts.

I think it’s not false… here’s another article on it; it seems some of the prophesies actually came true…


It also says that it’s been approved

and this article here:


(definitely not a schismatic website)

it says,

Church Approval

Bishop Salvador de Ribera of Quito attested in official documents to the miraculous completion of the Statue by St. Francis of Assisi and the three Archangels – St. Michael, St. Gabriel and St. Raphael – and presided over the anointing of the solemn consecration of the Statue in the Church of the Royal Convent of the Immaculate Conception on February 2, 1611. The devotion and apparitions were also authorized and promoted by the next Bishop of Quito, Pedro de Oviedo, who governed the Diocese from 1630 to 1646.

A prayer to the Our Lady of Good Success has the imprimatur of a bishop, Carlos Maria, archbishop of Quito, who provided it in 1941 as a partial approval.

The Feast of Our Lady of Good Success is celebrated on Februrary 2nd, the Feast of the Purification of Mary.

and the messages are discussed as well: miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/messages/quito_messages.html

"Excerpts taken from the 18th Century manuscript entitled The Admirable Life of Mother Mariana of Jesus Torres, written a century after her death by Prior Manuel de Souza Pereira, Franciscan Provincial in Quito, Ecuador and director of the Convent Mother Mariana founded. "

You don’t find it curious that Marian Horvat is the only source for this? Do you think Butler’s Lives of the Saints is wrong?


There is a St. Mariana of Quito. Born Mariana Paredes y Flores in 1618, also known as ‘the lily of Quito’. She died in 1645, at the age of 26. Her feast day is May 26, according to Butler’s Lives of the Saints Vol II p.401.

As for the miracle hunter, Catholic culture says this:


This website catalogs apparitions that have been approved by the Church as worthy of belief as well as those which have either been disapproved or not decided upon.

My problem with Our Lady of Good Success is there no documentation before 1930. You won’t find a single piece of paper on the apparition before that date as all were destroyed. The document that is the basis for the apparition is supposedly a 20th century copy made by a very old nun from another document written in a secret code that no one but her could crack which in turn was a copy of a eighteenth century document which in turn was a copy of a seventeenth century document. However, only the 1930s document still exists.

Contemporary documents from the period confirm that the various people involved did indeed exist and there was a huge fight between the bishops and the Franciscans over the control of the convent (which went all the way to the Pope) but no mention is made of Our Lady of Good Success.

Another document refers to Sister Marianna de Jesus as a very holy woman but does not mention the apparition. Many state that John Paul declared her venerable, but I have found no newspaper articles or church documents that actually state this. If anyone has an official document regarding her venerable status I would appreciate it.

In the 1940s when the current document was made public the Bishop of Quito investigated the matter and was satisfied enough to declare a novena for Our Lady of Good Success.

I am skeptical because I find it hard to believe that ALL the documents regarding this event written before the 20th century were lost. The prophecies are much less impressive when you realize the most recent document is from the 20th century.

And all my sources for this are not online or in English so I can’t share them with you.
But if you don’t believe me do your own snooping. See what manuscript documents exist regarding this apparition and where these documents are located. Find out on what date Sister Marianna de Jesus was declared venerable.

Saint Mariana of Quito was not involved in the story of Our Lady of Good Success.
Your confusing her with Sister Mariana de Jesus. As she is not a saint she is not mentioned in Butler’s Lives of Saints.

So are you saying the known version is from the 1930s - the latest document? If so, it would still be a remarkable prophecy about the twentieth century since much of what it says happened after 1930. The priest scandal mentioned could easily be the pedophilia sex scandal, and it could refer to the 1960s when religious fell away from their vocation in droves. The Prelate could easily be JP II. And the destruction of marriage mentioned in the prophecy is a late-twentieth century phenomenon.

I have the little book on it, and here is what is in the book but taken from the miracle hunter website (since I don’t want to type it all) on the message about the twentieth century, and one can see that it applies more to the 1960s and beyond, in my opinion. If from the 1930s, these prophecies of what occurred more towards the latter half of that century are very impressive indeed:

Our Lady purportedly said (and the Miracle Hunter website says this is an approved apparition, is my understanding):
“During this time insomuch as this poor country will lack the Christian spirit, the Sacrament of Extreme Unction will be little esteemed. Many people will die without receiving it either because of the negligence of their families or their false sentimentality that tries to protect the sick from seeing the gravity of their situations, or because they will rebel against the spirit of the Catholic Church, impelled by the malice of the devil. Thus many souls will be deprived of innumerable graces, consolations and the strength they need to make that great leap from time to eternity…”

“As for the Sacrament of Matrimony, which symbolizes the union of Christ with His Church, it will be attacked and profaned in the fullest sense of the word. Masonry, which will then be in power, will enact iniquitous laws with the objective of doing away with this Sacrament, making it easy for everyone to live in sin, encouraging the procreation of illegitimate children born without the blessing of the Church. The Christian spirit will rapidly decay, extinguishing the precious light of Faith until if reaches the point that there will be an almost total and general corruption of customs. The effects of secular education will increase, which will be one reason for the lack of priestly and religious vocations…”

“The Sacred Sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed and despised. …The demon will try to persecute the Ministers of the Lord in every possible way and he will labor with cruel and subtle astuteness to deviate them from the spirit of their vocation, corrupting many of them. These corrupted priests, who will scandalize the Christian people, will incite the hatred of the bad Christians and the enemies of the Roman, Catholic and Apostolic Church to fall upon all priests. This apparent triumph of Satan will bring enormous sufferings to the good Pastors of the Church…”

“Moreover, in these unhappy times, there will be unbridled luxury which, acting thus to snare the rest into sin, will conquer innumerable frivolous souls who will be lost. Innocence will almost no longer be found in children, nor modesty in women, and in this supreme moment of need of the Church, those who should speak will fall silent.”

“The secular Clergy will leave much to be desired because priests will become careless in their sacred duties. Lacking the divine compass, they will stray from the road traced by God for the priestly ministry, and they will become attached to wealth and riches, which they will unduly strive to obtain. How the Church will suffer during this dark night! … many priests will lose their spirit, placing their souls in great danger. This will mark the arrival of My hour.”


And I read one passage in the book that said after leaving school, Catholic children would rarely go to confession in the 20th century. I found this all too true in my case - in Catholic school I went to confession once a month; after I did not go until I was older - I think it was upon reading the messages of Medjugorje in the 1980s that prompted me to go to confession.

All of that sounds dead-on accurate, as I view the state of marriage and the state of the priesthood, sexting among children, and women wearing low-rise jeans and thong bikinis to the beach, etc.

God bless you.


“Bishop Salvador de Ribera of Quito attested in official documents to the miraculous completion of the Statue by St. Francis of Assisi and the three Archangels – St. Michael, St. Gabriel and St. Raphael – and presided over the anointing of the solemn consecration of the Statue in the Church of the Royal Convent of the Immaculate Conception on February 2, 1611. The devotion and apparitions were also authorized and promoted by the next Bishop of Quito, Pedro de Oviedo, who governed the Diocese from 1630 to 1646.”

I have bought both books on the subject I guess the problem is actually finding non-bias or fringe sources that approve of the apparition, I found that out the hard way when trying to start a wikipedia post on it.

Sorry, JM3 but you are mistaken; Our Lady of Good success was indeed approved a long time ago by the Bishop in Quito see below;

Quito, Ecuador (1594)

Title: Our Lady of Good Success

Feast Day: February 2nd

Investigated: 1666, 1723
First Apparition:
Feb 2, 1594

Approved: Feb 2, 1611 - Bishop Salvador de Riber
Last Apparition:
Dec 8, 1634

Visionaries: Venerable Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres (31)
Number of Apparitions: 4

Miracles & Signs: Blind girl cured at Mariana’s wake; incorruptible body of Mariana

Summary: Our Lady of Good Success appeared to Spanish-born Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres at her Conceptionist Royal Convent in Quito, Ecuador. She requested that a statue be made in her likeness and warned of diminishing faith and vocations in the 20th century.

Check out www. miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/index.html

I don’t consider miracle hunter the final authority. Let me know when the CDF approves it.


One may ask one’s bishop for clarification RE: Marian apparitions. I have had a Marian apparition: Marian Therese Horvat, the sedevacantist (“We Resist You to the Face”) who was formerly associated with the Moonie-esque Tradition, Family & Property/TFP and whose splinter group, Tradition in Action/TIA, seems to follow the same policy of cashing in on Marian apparitions (as noted by the Brazilian bishops’ condemnation of TFP). Instead of Fatima flogged for cash by TFP, TIA has “Our Lady of Good Success.”

TFP, FYI, has had no priestly vocations in their decades of guiding the formation of young men. That’s because they disdain the priesthood–something that ties in nicely with “Our Lady of Good Success’” prophecy about the sad state of vocations. TFP promotes the “warrior-monk” as a “higher” vocation than the priesthood–that if you can get the full facts behind their secretive group. OK. May the Most High grant us discernment. Selling books and Catholiciana is one of TFP’s central fundraising means and TIA is probably putting out a lovely coffee table book. I can’t vote my cash for Gnostics who think they have insider info on Catholicism apart from pastoral oversight.

Apparently this apparition has its own “Fr. Gruner” of Fatima fame. Regardless of Fr. Gruner, Fatima is considered true. Are you saying Our Lady of Good Success and its messages and prophecies are all a hoax? Admittedly I did not hear much about it until recently, so I don’t purport to know. The messages about the twentieth century sure seem spot on though (not in a sedevacantist way) - just that we do have the priest-sex scandal, other priests falling (the black dog thing), vocations in the West had been very low, marriage is on the rocks, etc. and the restoration mentioned could allude to the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

You do of course know that the CDF doesn’t have to approve apparitions only the local bishop has to.

“Doubting Thomas”? The Bishop about 3 centuries ago pronounced the apparition worthy of belief. Its not a requirement to believe just as Lourdes is not a requirement. Nor Fatima for that matter.

However I do believe in them.

The sedevacantists & ultra-traditionalists are only using the revelations of Our Lady of Good Success.

Please read the Canonical Coronation of Our Lady of Good Success & Decree of Marian Sanctuary at:gudsuccess.blogspot.com

Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres was given the title “Venerable” by the Church, please read her Beatification Cause also in the above website.

Also interesting are the articles:
First Resurrection & Second Resurrection of Venerable Mariana:

  1. gudsuccess.blogspot.com/2013/01/first-resurrection-of-venerable-mariana.html
  2. gudsuccess.blogspot.com/2013/01/second-resurrection-of-venerable.html
    The Original Lost Statue of the Infant Jesus of Good Success:

On August 8, 1986 after examining extensive data on her life, the Archbishop of Quito, Antonio J. Gonzalez issued an Episcopal decree that declared Mother Mariana “Venerable,” that’s when the Beatification cause was initiated.


Here is an extract of from a new book which has an appendix giving the little known details of how the Story of Our Lady of Good Success became known in the twentieth century. Garcia Moreno was preparing a dossier for getting Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres beatified by Pope Pius IX containing a summary of Fr. Sousa Pereira’ biography written in 1790, but died before sending it. His widow let the daughter of Garcia Moreno’s secretary. Clotild Varela, have the summary and made shorthand notes from it before destroying the dossier at the command of her spiritual director. She later entered the Convent of the Immaculate Conception where she began to give out copies of her notes. A copy reached the Archbishop of Quito who began an investigation on the authenticity of the notes, and thereby of the only source now available of the story, since Fr. Sousa Pereira’s biography has been hidden in the wall of the convent, along with the Caudernon, the complete set of original documents. Our Lady foretold that all the document would be found at a later date, but until then, we merely have the notes of Sr. Mariana Varela. Here is a quote to support this, and those interested for the full story can get a copy of the new book which treats of this interesting subject, and also the newspaper accounts of the miracle of 1941, when the eyes of the statue of OLGS moved before 30,000 witnesses during three days. Three days after the miracle, the Archbishop of Quito approved a novena to OLGS. Does not the miracle indirectly verify the notes of Sr. Mariana Varela?

How the Story Became Known

"Clotild Varela, born on September 9, 1879, who, when she was about eleven years old, helped her father, Mr. Rafael Varel Yepez, in the separating and organizing of the writings that belonged to President Garcia Moreno. They immediately found the letter and package
intended for the Roman Pontiff, [Pope Pius IX]. Clotilde began to read the three notebooks, and found them extremely delightful and beneficial. She asked Dona Mariana Alcazar to allow her to bring them to her house, and obtained that favor in an unconditional manner.

"She read them in their entirety, and re-read them, and even meditated upon them. She found in them a stimulus for striving for greater holiness. She informed her confessor, Father Miguel Meneses, about all of this, who, instead of approving the spiritual devouring of those pages, ended up by disapproving of her reading. What dangers did that ascetic
priest discern? Doubtlessly those of illusion and vain curiosity, given that that biography of Sister Mariana de Jesus Torres contains in large part apparitions and revelations of the supernatural order, resembling fanciful and spectacular literature. What is more, with the intention to uproot what he considered to be a temptation, Father Meneses ordered
his penitent to deliver up the three notebooks to the fire. Who does not see that such a command was disproportionate! It would have been enough that the aforesaid priest would have collected them and kept them in a safe place.

"Miss Clotilde Varela heard the command with much annoyance, and expressed it to her confessor. He maintained his command. Then she asked the reverend priest to allow her to make, in cipher or in shorthand, a copy of those pages which seemed the most important to her. This having been allowed by her confessor, Miss Varela undertook
the task by making use of the skill she had learned from her father, who in turn had learned it from Garcia Moreno.

"The year was 1899, when Father Manuel Sousa Pereira’s original manuscripts were consumed by the fire. And shortly afterwards, Clotilde Varela entered the religious order of the Conceptionist nuns. She also took the name of Mariana de Jesus.

"It is presumed that not many years passed before requests poured in for copies [of her notes] in ordinary writing, understandable by all: and then Sister Mariana de Jesus Varela, with the abbess’ permission, willingly satisfied these desires. Interest and enthusiasm grew, even among faithful outside of the convent. This came to the attention of the archbishop, His Grace Carlos Maria de la Torre, who named a commission of theologians: Father Joel Monroy, Mercedarian, and Father Jose Urarte, Jesuit, so that they would speak with Sister Mariana de Jesus Varela and subject her to appropriate questioning. Father Monroy gave his sickness as an excuse, but said that he would subscribe to the
verdict that Father Urarte would give, who was a Jesuit very competent
for the case.

"It was during the year 1934 when the latter religious spoke with Sister Mariana de Jesus Varela in the following terms: “When you translated or made a summary of the life of Sister Mariana de Jesus Torres, were you faithful and did not change anything? And when you put what you had written in cipher into ordinary writing, were you also faithful and did not change anything? Please answer these two questions in all truth. I could ask you to answer under oath, given that I have been authorized to do this. However I do not do this. But do tell the truth.”

"“Sister Mariana de Jesus Varela answered in the following words, ‘I was faithful and did not change anything when I wrote the original text in cipher, and when I translated what I had written in cipher into ordinary writing. I can solemnly swear that I am telling the truth.’”

Extract taken from Vida de Garcia Moreno by Severo Gomezjurado, S. J.
(Quito, Editorial Don Bosco, 1970), vol. IX, pp. 476-491.

Newly published in English in The Story of Our Lady of Good Success and Novena (pp. 145-147) available in print and Kindle Book format at www.dolorosapress.com.

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