Our Lord laying on floor at TLM mass and nobody cares!

First off, I apologize for the length of this post and as you will see, I’m no writer so bear with me please.
I’ve been attending a TLM apostolate for the last year and I have been very happy. I’ve always loved the Latin Mass and thanks to this forum I found that TLM was still available. I was getting really frustrated with the NO, I felt there was no reverance in church anymore and so many abuses going on at mass. Today the Oratory that I attend had their 20th anniversary and was being celebrated by the Bishop, so I went thinking this was such a wonderul occasion and I wanted to be a part of it. Of course there were problems, as the Cathedral was not equipped for the latin mass but they did the best they could. I received my lord from the bishop which was a thrill for me, haven’t done that since my confirmation.
After coming back to my seat and saying my prayers, I looked up to the altar and there was priest giving out communion who seemed nervous and wasn’t used to giving the host on the tongue, when I noticed a little commotion and I realized, he dropped our lord. I was surprised, he just kept going about his business and ignored what just happened. After a few minutes one of the servers was given a napkin and they laid it on the host on the rug. Communion is over and nothing is done yet about our precious lord’s body on the floor. None of the priests seemed fazed about this, walking around it like it was nothing, just a piece of dirt. Finally mass is over and surely they’re going to do something, nope. I watched a few people gather around our lord and one man knelt in front of it, waiting for someone to acknowledge what had happened. Priests were running everywhere because of the celebration and taking care of plans for the reception afterwards, still no thought given to Jesus laying on the floor. Then I saw our pastor running down the ailse heading right for these wonderful people who were guarding the host and I thought for sure he would do something. He was concentrating on something else, so they told him, “what about our lord” and pointed to the floor. He looked at it and with a wave of his arm, like he didn’t have time for this, just shrugged his shoulders, turned and went about his business. I was appalled! I couldn’t believe it. I thought for sure this priest who I thought was so holy and good would show some concern. Shortly another priest followed, whom I’m sure he sent to take care of this. It was like it was such a bother. All he did was get some water and picked up our lord with a napkin and rubbed the area where he laid. I didn’t really have a problem with this even though it was late, but when he was done and ascending the altar, he turned around to those few standing there and as if to say with gestures, “are you happy now”? I should have just went up there and consumed the host myself, but I really thought, as I’m sure the others did, that this would be handled differently. Needless to say, I didn’t stick around for any reception and I have been terribly upset ever since because I expected better from this church and her priests whom I had come to love very much. One good thing came from this. Before I left home for mass, I asked Jesus to let me know without a doubt that he is truly present in the Eucharist, which I had trouble with lately. Well, it’s obvious my prayers were answered because I would not have been this upset if I thought otherwise. Thank you Jesus.
Sorry for being so long winded but I needed to vent and ask all of you, am I wrong? What do you think? Am I over reacting?
I started going to the TLM again so I could regain the religious values that I was taught when I was young. I am very disappointed. Hopefully I will get over this and be able to return to this church because I love the latin mass, Thank you for listening.
God bless you

Joanne

The priests involved should be ashamed. If you don’t mind a suggestion I would approach the priest on an occasion privately and tell him how scandalized I and others were by his conduct toward our Lord. Maybe it will wake the priest up and perhaps he will reflect on the seriousness of it.

On the feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus a few weeks back our TLM priest was telling us all how we should be doing acts of reparation for the offenses committed against our Lord and for the irreverence so many have toward our Lord in the blessed sacrament.

Joanne if you look in the back of your TLM missal you will find an Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I will say this prayer tonight and think of these priests.

Act Of Reparation To The Sacred Heart Of Jesus

O SWEETEST Jesus, whose overflowing charity towards men is most ungratefully repaid by such great forgetfulness, neglect and contempt, see, prostrate before Thy altars, we strive by special honor to make amends for the wicked coldness of men and the contumely with which Thy most loving Heart is everywhere treated.

At the same time, mindful of the fact that we too have sometimes not been free from unworthiness, and moved therefore with most vehement sorrow, in the first place we implore Thy mercy on us, being prepared by voluntary expiation to make amends for the sins we have ourselves committed, and also for the sins of those who wander far from the way of salvation, whether because, being obstinate in their unbelief, they refuse to follow Thee as their shepherd and leader, or because, spurning the promises of their Baptism, they have cast off the most sweet yoke of Thy law.

We now endeavor to expiate all these lamentable crimes together, and it is also our purpose to make amends for each one of them severally: for the want of modesty in life and dress, for impurities, for so many snares set for the minds of the innocent, for the violation of feast days, for the horrid blasphemies against Thee and Thy saints, for the insults offered to Thy Vicar and to the priestly order, for the neglect of the Sacrament of Divine love or its profanation by horrible sacrileges, and lastly for the public sins of nations which resist the rights and the teaching authority of the Church which Thou hast instituted. Would that we could wash away these crimes with our own blood!

And now, to make amends for the outrage offered to the Divine honor, we offer to Thee the same satisfaction which Thou didst once offer to Thy Father on the Cross and which Thou dost continually renew on our altars, we offer this conjoined with the expiations of the Virgin Mother and of all the Saints, and of all pious Christians, promising from our heart that so far as in us lies, with the help of Thy grace, we will make amends for our own past sins, and for the sins of others, and for the neglect of Thy boundless love, by firm faith, by a pure way of life, and by a perfect observance of the Gospel law, especially that of charity; we will also strive with all our strength to prevent injuries being offered to Thee, and gather as many as we can to become Thy followers.

Receive, we beseech Thee, O most benign Jesus, by the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Reparatress, the voluntary homage of this expiation, and vouchsafe, by that great gift of final perseverance, to keep us most faithful until death in our duty and in Thy service, so that at length we may all come to that fatherland, where Thou with the Father and the Holy Ghost livest and reignest God for ever and ever.

Amen.

Joanne,

If nothing else, this proves that nobody is perfect. This is why forgiveness is such a great part of Christianity. It also shows that abuses do not only happen in Novus Ordo masses (please, no flames about relative numbers of abuses) and so perhaps we should quit throwing stones at each other and concentrate on serving God.

  • Liberian

[quote=marcus29]Joanne

The priests involved should be ashamed. If you don’t mind a suggestion I would approach the priest on an occasion privately and tell him how scandalized I and others were by his conduct toward our Lord. Maybe it will wake the priest up and perhaps he will reflect on the seriousness of it.

On the feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus a few weeks back our TLM priest was telling us all how we should be doing acts of reparation for the offenses committed against our Lord and for the irreverence so many have toward our Lord in the blessed sacrament.

Joanne if you look in the back of your TLM missal you will find an Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. I will say this prayer tonight and think of these priests.
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Thank You Marcus and God Bless You

I believe the blessed sacrament is covered, correct. Then holy water is sprinkled where the sacramet was dropped, correct. The time lapse is also bizarre to me. The sacrament should be attended to immediately.

If I recall correctly, back in the days before the Novus Ordo, the instructions for a dropped host were to immediately cover it with a cloth, and after communion or Mass was finished, to pick it up and clean the area reverently. I don’t recall the exact details as such an incident never actually happened in my presence.

Are you sure the host wasn’t picked up while the towel was layed over the spot?

The old instructions in the case of a dropped Host, it must be picked up and a cloth (eg the lavabo towel) placed on the spot. Afterwards, that area is scrubbed using a cloth and basin of water. The basin itself must be emptied onto earthen ground (eg the garden).

At least that was what I was taught when actively attending TLM.

gelsbern–yes, I think you are right.

[quote=Liberian]Joanne,

If nothing else, this proves that nobody is perfect. This is why forgiveness is such a great part of Christianity. It also shows that abuses do not only happen in Novus Ordo masses (please, no flames about relative numbers of abuses) and so perhaps we should quit throwing stones at each other and concentrate on serving God.

  • Liberian
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Great point. We don’t have the Latin Mass because our priest never had to study Latin. But, he has such reverence for the Body and Blood of Christ and watches me carefully when I transfer the Consecrated Hosts or Raise the Precious Blood at the conclusion of the Consecration. On very few occasions I have dropped the Precious host, I have never left it on the floor for more than a split second.

From reading the posts of many TLM promoters here I thought it was impossible for the TLM to have any abuses.

[quote=justme]From reading the posts of many TLM promoters here I thought it was impossible for the TLM to have any abuses.
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This apparently wasn’t a regular TLM location with priests who regularly offer the TLM. (e.g. the Priest was nervous giving Communion on the tongue.)

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