Parents Sue School District Over Lesbian's Talk

"Parents Sue School District Over Lesbian’s Talk

A group of 31 parents are suing a California school district for allowing a lesbian minister to address students during Diversity Days at Casto Valley High School.

Parents of students attending the high school say they were not informed about the pastor’s visit and were outraged by the lesson she shared."…

Full article here: cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2009/May/Parents-Sue-School-District-Over-Lesbians-Talk/

I think most law suits are a bad idea. But in this case…go baby go!

If it is true that the woman was proselytizing during school hours she should be sued for that. We have separation of Church and State in this country. It is extremely important that she should be reprimanded for having blurred that line by “welcoming” school children to her Church.

High school children absolutely need to learn about homosexuals and homosexuality. Homosexuals are full members in good standing of American society, and need to have the protection of public acceptance, just as people of non-white races were helped by increased tolerance.

Education can go a long way towards preventing bigotry, ostracism, and violence against homosexual students. This is without question what Jesus would want, if he was here to speak on it.

In the end it’s a matter of ordinary decency. Anyone who sees homosexuals as anything but fellow, full, and complete human beings is a bigot of the worst sort.

And lastly, what they do on their own time, in the privacy of their own homes, is nobody’s business but their own.

Isn’t it rather self-defeating to sue a School District? Doesn’t it mean fewer teachers and books?

Is there no recourse other than suing?

Contrary to the impression given by the CBN article in the first post, Nehring was not invited to the school to discuss science and mathematics… she was there as part of a Days of Diversity program which the school hosts every year. And she has spoken there for the past three years.

The school district says it wants to cooperate with the parents, but feels overwhelmed

The holdup lies in requests made by parents seeking any and all writings — including e-mails and PowerPoint presentations — received and sent by employees to and from Nehring and the Eden Church of Hayward, which she heads, according to the suit.

“Our position is that request is overly broad and it would take an extraordinary amount of research to find out who may have written her at all,” Macy said. “Ultimately, they have to describe what their objectives are.”

insidebayarea.com/dailyreview/localnews/ci_12386433

Given that Nehring has spoken there for three years as part of a diversity program, it seems a little odd that a problem was discovered only just recently. And the initial complaint made a rather unbelievable claim:

In the anonymous e-mail that prompted the issue, the writer claimed Nehring disrupted instruction at Castro Valley High to give step-by-step instructions on how to become gay and transsexual. Nehring has denied the assertion.

Step by step instructions on how to become gay and transsexual?? LOL

Castro Valley has a reputation as being a racist place. I’m not so sure there isn’t a little bit of bigotry at play in this situation.

This explains why the parents are requesting the documentation. They are trying to determine if California law was broken.

  1. (a) This chapter does not apply to description or illustration of human reproductive organs that may appear in a textbook, adopted pursuant to law, on physiology, biology, zoology, general science, personal hygiene, or health.
    (b) This chapter does not apply to instruction or materials that discuss gender, sexual orientation, or family life and do not discuss human reproductive organs and their functions.

If Arlene Nehring discussed human reproductive organs and their functions, then her presentation fell under California Education Code Sections 51930 - 51939.

  1. It is the intent of the Legislature to encourage pupils to communicate with their parents or guardians about human sexuality and HIV/AIDS and to respect the rights of parents or guardians to supervise their children’s education on these subjects. The Legislature intends to create a streamlined process to make it easier for parents and guardians to review materials and evaluation tools related to comprehensive sexual health education and HIV/AIDS prevention education, and, if they wish, to excuse their children from participation in all or part of that instruction or evaluation. The Legislature recognizes that while parents and guardians overwhelmingly support medically accurate, comprehensive sex education, parents and guardians have the ultimate responsibility for imparting values regarding human sexuality to their children.
  1. A parent or guardian of a pupil has the right to excuse their child from all or part of comprehensive sexual health education, HIV/AIDS prevention education, and assessments related to that education, as follows:
    (a) At the beginning of each school year, or, for a pupil who enrolls in a school after the beginning of the school year, at the time of that pupil’s enrollment, each school district shall notify the parent or guardian of each pupil about instruction in comprehensive sexual health education and HIV/AIDS prevention education and research on pupil health behaviors and risks planned for the coming year. The notice shall do all of the following:
    (1) Advise the parent or guardian that written and audiovisual educational materials used in comprehensive sexual health education and HIV/AIDS prevention education are available for inspection.
    (2) Advise the parent or guardian whether the comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education will be taught by school district personnel or by outside consultants. A school district may provide comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education, to be taught by outside consultants, and may hold an assembly to deliver comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education by guest speakers, but if it elects to provide comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education in either of these manners, the notice shall include the date of the instruction, the name of the organization or affiliation of each guest speaker, and information stating the right of the parent or guardian to request a copy of this section, Section 51933, and Section 51934. If arrangements for this instruction are made after the beginning of the school year, notice shall be made by mail or another commonly used method of notification, no fewer than 14 days before the instruction is
    delivered.
    (3) Include information explaining the parent’s or guardian’s right to request a copy of this chapter.
    (4) Advise the parent or guardian that the parent or guardian may request in writing that his or her child not receive comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education.
    (b) Notwithstanding Section 51513, anonymous, voluntary, and confidential research and evaluation tools to measure pupils’ health behaviors and risks, including tests, questionnaires, and surveys containing age-appropriate questions about the pupil’s attitudes concerning or practices relating to sex may be administered to any pupil in grades 7 to 12, inclusive, if the parent or guardian is notified in writing that this test, questionnaire, or survey is to be administered and the pupil’s parent or guardian is given the opportunity to review the test, questionnaire, or survey and to request in writing that his or her child not participate.
    © The use of outside consultants or guest speakers as described in paragraph (2) of subdivision (a) is within the discretion of the school district.
  1. (a) A pupil may not attend any class in comprehensive sexual education or HIV/AIDS prevention education, or participate in any anonymous, voluntary, and confidential test, questionnaire, or survey on pupil health behaviors and risks, if the school has received a written request from the pupil’s parent or guardian excusing the pupil from participation.
    (b) A pupil may not be subject to disciplinary action, academic penalty, or other sanction if the pupil’s parent or guardian declines to permit the pupil to receive comprehensive sexual health education or HIV/AIDS prevention education or to participate in anonymous, voluntary, and confidential tests, questionnaires, or surveys on pupil health behaviors and risks.
    © While comprehensive sexual health education, HIV/AIDS prevention education, or anonymous, voluntary, and confidential test, questionnaire, or survey on pupil health behaviors and risks is being administered, an alternative educational activity shall be made available to pupils whose parents or guardians have requested that they not receive the instruction or participate in the test, questionnaire, or survey.

If Nehring discussed human reproductive organs and their functions, the school failed to notify the parents as required by California Education Code Sections 51938. They also likely failed to provide an alternative educational activity for parent that had already opted their children out of sex education.

I seem to remember a joke that went:

Gay person 1: My mother made me a homosexual.
Gay person 2: Oooh, would she make one for me?

Not really – this is America, remember.

Sometimes people sue for nominal damages just to get the truth out – suing gives their attorneys the ability to depose the defendants, subpoena records, &c, &c.
So even if you didn’t want money damages if you wanted to find out “whose idea was this?” suing might be the only way to find out.

Do you have separate boards running the schools or are they run by councils?

It varies with the kind of school - whether it’s a Church of England or Roman Catholic school - for example, but basically they’re run by their own Head and ‘Board of Governors’, with certain oversight by the Local Authorities and the Government.

Kaninchen;

Isn’t it rather self-defeating to sue a School District? Doesn’t it mean fewer teachers and books?

No, but it may mean a cost to tax payers. But, the left has been suing tax payers for years. Fair is fair.

Is there no recourse other than suing?

Nope. This involves a gay. Lawsuits are the only option anymore.

The woman in question isn’t being sued, is she?

So, the School Board can be sued but doesn’t have to pay - how do the mechanics of that work, I wonder?

Kaninchen;

So, the School Board can be sued but doesn’t have to pay - how do the mechanics of that work, I wonder?

??? They will pay for a lawyer, sure.

Kaninchen;

The woman in question isn’t being sued, is she?

??? No, the school board is.

People get all kinds of crazy ideas when they see/hear the word ‘lawsuit’.

All the parents did was have their attorneys file a writ petition with the county superior court to compel the district to release the records on the presentation.

Sorry, I’ve lived in the US but can’t say I paid that much attention to the ways of School Districts.

All the parents did was have their attorneys file a writ petition with the county superior court to compel the district to release the records on the presentation.

OK, it’s just that in most places ‘sue . . . .’ (as in the op) would imply monetary compensation of some sort.

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