Passion of the CHrist, Catholic


#1

Is the movie the Passion of the Christ based on a Catholic view? If it is or isnt does it really matter? Is there that much of a difference between protestant and Catholic interpretation on the Passion?


#2

I feel like the portrayal of Mary was beautiful,and certain scenes portrayed how the devil mocks Mother Mary and the Child Jesus. It brings out what God said to satan In Genesis I will put emnity between you and “the Woman” between your seed and"Her Seed". This is overlooked by alot of non-catholics,even though God said it, they seem to be afraid to acknowledge that for fear that God will get angry at them.God Bless


#3

The movie also stresses the connection between the Last Supper and the Crucifixion, and, more importantly, the connection between the Eucharist and Jesus himself. A Protestant movie wouldn’t have focused on the breaking of the bread, or have so artistically pointed out that the “bread” was in fact the body of Jesus.


#4

Moreover, there was an extrabiblical (no-no for Protestants) emphasis on St. Francis’ Stations of the Cross and the reverence toward the precious blood of Christ that was Eucharistic in nature. Recall the Virgin Mary and Mary Magdalene lovingly wiping up Christ’s blood from the ground after the scourging; Mary kissing Christ’s foot on the cross, leaving blood on her lips; Veronica kissing the shroud which wiped the blood off Christ’s face.

I think the only place where Mel missed the boat was when in the movie, Christ did not take the wine-soaked sponge on the cross, which is only half-true. Mark 15:23: “They gave him wine drugged with myrrh, but he did not take it.” BUT John 19, 29-30: “So they put a sponge soaked in wine on a sprig of hyssop and put it up to his mouth. When Jesus had taken the wine, he said, ‘It is finished.’ And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.” It would’ve been very Catholic of Gibson to have Jesus take the wine in his movie, because, as Scott Hahn says, the “it” in “it is finished” refers to the Passover sacrifice and the drinking of the final cup.


#5

[quote=Ghosty]The movie also stresses the connection between the Last Supper and the Crucifixion, and, more importantly, the connection between the Eucharist and Jesus himself. A Protestant movie wouldn’t have focused on the breaking of the bread, or have so artistically pointed out that the “bread” was in fact the body of Jesus.
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I didnt feel that way. I felt like it was just a normal breaking of the bread. Like a meal before He was put to death.I didnt feel that they stressed the Eucharist being actual body of Jesus. So Mel GIbson is he catholic or what?


#6

The “catholic” view of the Passion is biblical - so I don’t know why the “catholic” view would be a problem.


#7

[quote=crazyage3]I didnt feel that way. I felt like it was just a normal breaking of the bread. Like a meal before He was put to death.
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If you do not feel that way then you have not understood the movie.

JUST - breaking bread

JUST - put to death.

There is no “JUST” in The Passion of My Lord!

This was the pivotal point of history - the gates of heaven have been open - so that MANY may be saved!

No coincidences, no mistakes and not so much as a breath was taken that did not have purpose or meaning!

I suggest you re watch the movie - Mel Gibson is more than Catholic - he was an instrument of God!


#8

[quote=crazyage3]I didnt feel that way. I felt like it was just a normal breaking of the bread. Like a meal before He was put to death.I didnt feel that they stressed the Eucharist being actual body of Jesus. So Mel GIbson is he catholic or what?
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I disagree. I think it was very clear that Mel was showing the significance in the Eucarist. The movie made me truly understand the significance of recieving communion. In Mass after I saw the movie, I had so much more emotion and reverence toward recieving communion. I never really “got it” before. I was raised Catholic and before this movie and a lot more soul searching and prayer I really never understood why we did the things we did in the first place. The Passion woke me up and gave me a deeper understanding of what Jesus really did for us and a strong desire for more knowlege on our faith and on Jesus.

Yes Mel is Catholic.


#9

I love Mel - I really do.
And I loved the movie.
But Mel is not in union with Rome. The church he belongs to is in schism from the Roman Catholic Church.


#10

[quote=anjel13] I never really “got it” before. I was raised Catholic and before this movie and a lot more soul searching and prayer I really never understood why we did the things we did in the first place.

Yes Mel is Catholic.
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You were not alone!!!

Thus the need for the movie - there is a warped and perverse understand of exactly WHAT the Mass is!!

How is it that the message of Christ has been sent through the cess pool of Hollywood - in relation to our Lady appearing in a grotto or Our Lord being born in a stable! …

Or the tool used is what is concered a “schimatic” Catholic!

Mistake… I think not!

With God there are no mistakes there are no coincedences!


#11

[quote=anjel13] I never really “got it” before. I was raised Catholic and before this movie and a lot more soul searching and prayer I really never understood why we did the things we did in the first place.

Yes Mel is Catholic.
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You were NOT alone!!!

Thus the need for the movie - Do you think it was an accident the the message of Christ came out of the cess pool of Hollywood … or Our Lord was born in a Stable or Our Lady appeared in a grotto

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that the tool used was is what is considered a “schimatic” Catholic.

With God there are no mistakes or coincidences!!


#12

[quote=crazyage3]I didnt feel that way. I felt like it was just a normal breaking of the bread. Like a meal before He was put to death.I didnt feel that they stressed the Eucharist being actual body of Jesus. So Mel GIbson is he catholic or what?
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I tried this once before, but the board went down, so I’ll give it another go.
Of course it’s a Catholic Movie. Yes, I know Mel is SSPX, but the Catholicity of the movie cannot be denied.

Crazy,
The next time you see the movie, pay special attention to St, John at the foot of the Cross. You can see Jesus’ words and actions during the Last Supper come alive for him in flashbacks as the events on the cross unfold. “This is myBody…” “This is my Blood…” and you can just see the light bulb come on for St. John.
Also, the movie is so Marian. No Protestant could’ve, or would’ve done that. One of the most powerful scenes in the movie is that of Mary and Satan, walking along opposite sides of the street, eyes locked in battle. Mary is obviously strong enough for this duel and in the end, Satan blinks. Amazing!
Is it Catholic movie? Is the Pope Polish?


#13

Just so you all know, I wasnt mad that this was a Catholic movie. I’m glad, infact. My protestant sister in law made a comment about how the Passion was a “Catholic View”. It upsetted me because it is the Passion of OUR LORD. Why should it matter if it was Catholic or not? Everything was taken from the bible.


#14

[quote=crazyage3]Just so you all know, I wasnt mad that this was a Catholic movie. I’m glad, infact. My protestant sister in law made a comment about how the Passion was a “Catholic View”. It upsetted me because it is the Passion of OUR LORD. Why should it matter if it was Catholic or not? Everything was taken from the bible.
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You should tell your Protestant sister-in-law that after the movie was shown to Protestant pastors across the country, many came to the priest traveling with Mel at these private showings and said they had never considered the Passion in some of the ways portrayed in the film, especially those that featured Mary (no big surprise there). But, they also said they found a new appreciation for what she went through, what she sacrificed, and how she participated in the sufferings of her Son. Many Protestants are beginning to see that they have been blinded by denominational short-sightedness and are coming to a new understanding–one the Catholic Church has always had–of the importance of Mary in the life of Christ and to us as Christians.


#15

When I watched The Passion of the Christ for the first time it was so real to me. When I watched the movie for the first time, I remember thinking over and over, This is the Mass.

But it really made an impact the next Sunday (I attend a Traditional Latin Mass).

By the Consecration I was practically sobbing as the visual images of Christ in the movie were made real to me in the Holy Sacrifice of the Altar. This has stayed with me.

This has happened to me before, both at Mass and when contemplating on the Stations of the Cross, but I have to admit that this was a powerful experience.

It is such a Catholic movie that I am amazed it hasn’t converted other Christians. Maybe Catholics have been negligent in explaining what it is all about.

Maybe Catholics don’t know how Catholic it is.


#16

A lot of good points made here…one other is you’ll notice Peter and the other apostles refer to Mary as ‘Mother’ - this totally confused the Protestant I saw the film with (of course he believes Jesus did have brothers, but Peter wasn’t one of them…that’s another story…!)


#17

[quote=crazyage3]Is the movie the Passion of the Christ based on a Catholic view? If it is or isnt does it really matter? Is there that much of a difference between protestant and Catholic interpretation on the Passion?
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I don’t know. The Truth is the Truth whether one is Protestant or Catholic. Personally, I found the movie to be a very serious attempt to be true to the Biblical account of the Passion. Assuming you are a Protestant, what did you think?

If you agree it was a good representation of the Biblical account, it something that we both agree on and we can use it to build toward the unity that Christ desires for His children.


#18

The Passion of the Christ was partially inspired by the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich, a German nun of the 18th Century. She wrote a book entitled “The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ” based on visions she had of the Passion.

The text of “The Dolorous Passion” may be found here.

-ACEGC


#19

[quote=edward_george]The Passion of the Christ was partially inspired by the writings of Anne Catherine Emmerich, a German nun of the 18th Century. She wrote a book entitled “The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ” based on visions she had of the Passion.

The text of “The Dolorous Passion” may be found here.

-ACEGC
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And truly, what are those visions if not meditations on the Passion of the Lord? Mel’s movie is the same thing–it’s his meditations on the Passion drawn from the Bible, the visions of Ven. Anne Catherine, the paintings of Caravaggio, his own experiences as a sinner in need of the Savior, etc. So, although Mel certainly used Ven. Anne Catherine’s meditations, the film wasn’t based mainly on her writings. Not that you are saying that here, but I thought it good to show that the movie was inspired by a mix of things–just for those who think Catholics base everything they know about the life of Jesus on the visions of saints and mystics. :wink:


#20

When I watched it, it CHANGED MY LIFE! It changed me so much that I wanted to be in the Church our Lord wanted me in…therefore, I came home to the Catholic Church!
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