Physically preventing someone in the state of mortal sin to recieve eucharist?


#1

I don’t know what Church’s position is on phyically blocking someone who we know is in the state of mortal sin (he told us before mass or we have seen him sinning mortally and know he hasn’t confessed) to go to communion and commit sacrilage and cause eternal pain of God? I know it sounds weird, but why not? St. Paul said:“Be crazy in the eyes of the world to be wise in the eyes of the Lord”… What does the Church teach?
SORRY FOR BAD ENGLISH!


#2

The Church’s position is that it is not the job of a lay person to stop any other lay person from receiving Communion.


#3

As the poster above me said, it’s just not your duty to stop that person from receiving communion. You do not sin by watching the person receive without physically preventing them; on the contrary, you probably would sin by stopping them because you would scandalize a great number of people who don’t know the circumstances.


#4

^ this is what I have been taught as an Eucharistic Minister.


#5

I think that depends.My husband missed Mass last weekend.I mentioned to him yesterday before Mass,that he shouldn’t present himself for Communion,due to this.He then said,well then I am not going to Mass today either.After I told him he would just be adding another sin,he begrudgingly understood.I felt it wa ps my responsibility as his wife to mention this.


#6

You did right. And that doesn’t contradict anything anyone has said concerning “physically preventing someone in the state of mortal sin”. If you husband decided to go to Mass and receive communion anyway, you should not physically prevent him.

You did the right thing in talking to him and convincing him to do the right thing.


#7

Nope, sorry, still not your place. You can remind him of the “rules”, but in the long run, it is between him & God. Period. End of discussion.


#8

I’m inclined to disagree. Spouses are obligated to do their utmost to lead each other to Heaven, and so a spouse who sees the other spouse in an occasion of sin MUST say something and try to counsel him/her to do the right thing.


#9

:thumbsup: Agreed!


#10

And that is what I said- remind him of the “rules”. But, in the long run, if he refuses to listen it is not the problem of the wife. The OP’s question was “do we physically prevent someone…” and the answer is NO!!


#11

Essentially,that is what I did.I asked him if he made it to Mass last weekend,he said no.I then reminded him.He is a convert of nine years.Still pretty resistant to a lot of Church Doctrine.So ,as his sponsor and wife,while I don’t physically prevent him,I do feel a sense of responsibility as it pertains to fraternal correction.


#12

If you’re correct here, then shouldn’t the reverse also hold true, that one shouldn’t be encouraging communion not knowing the other’s disposition to receive?


#13

Therein lies the problem.Sad to say,I think receiving the Eucharist has fallen prey to the entitlement mentality.Used to be ,the confessional was packed and fewer were receiving Communioun. Now,the opposite is true.


#14

Probably, but that was not the question.
And, to be honest, why would I encourage anyone else to receive. It is a personal choice, that no one else should be involved in, except maybe my Pastor and/or confessor. :shrug:


#15

Which is odd to me. We commission people to distribute the Eucharist but then do not allow them to care for or protect it. We say that is the priests job.

But the reason it is the priests job is because he is the one distributing it.

It is an inconsistency in the process of EMHC. And since that is probably not going away any time soon, perhaps the Church should mete out some responsibility on those distributing.


#16

You may not, but what moves people to receive even though they know missing Mass (among a whole lot of things) is a mortal sin? They must feel like they are gaining something but what? I think that might be nice to know.


#17

:clapping:


#18

That’s all she was doing… mentioning the rules :confused:


#19

I go to Church in a third world nation. It´s not uncommon for drunks coming into Mass. They scream, shout obcenities and the like. Many try to get in the line for communion, knowing that the Priest is not going to give them communion. We escort them out of the Mass. We try to do this gently, however extreme force is necessary many times. No one is scandalized, because this is a regular occurrence. I don´t feel guilty when I escort someone out. I feel guilty if I don´t God bless:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:


#20

Of course we cannot take this idea that the laity cannot deny someone the Eucharist to the extreme. If a person comes up in the line and softly tells the EMHC that he is going to desecrate the Eucharist , the EMHC should refuse. Or if the EMHC says “the Body of Christ” and someone says “there is no God but God and Mohammed is his messenger” The EMHC should not distribute.

I think that yes, a EMHC can and sometimes has the responsibility to protect Our Lord.


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