[quote="Swiss_Guy, post:8, topic:273174"]
It just hurts to know that liberals are so bent on destroying the Catholic Church. I mean, I lean liberal on politics (lean slightly, much more moderate), but when the true liberals (i.e socially liberal modern day liberals) show how much they don't like the Church and western civilization, it's just so maddening.:mad:
I was once regarded as a liberal. I haven't changed my thinking to speak of, but the whole notion of liberalism has changed.
Back when I was a Democrat officeholder, I was a "true believer" in the "liberalism" of the time, and not without some justification. My particular focus was on the truly poor, particularly those who could not help themselves; the disabled needy. Long ago, the Dem party really did stand for that. That, of course, was back when things could be done at the "grass roots" and not everything came out of Washington in broad policy moves.
But, not since Ronald Reagan's Earned Income Credit has either party done anything for the truly poor. Both parties, but the Dem party more than the Repub party, has spent a lot of money on middle class and uber-upper class welfare. But what did the disabled needy get? Nothing.
So here we are in a system in which Warren Buffet and his like can get Social Security and Medicare, when a disabled person with nothing has to get by on $600/month. This administration has increased the Medicaid recipients and emphasized the 'well care" mostly utilized by the middle and upper classes, which crowds out the most needy Medicaid recipients and makes it increasingly difficult to get care for the chronically ill, most especially the disabled.
This government has loaned $2 billion to a Brazilian oil company in which George Soros has a major stake. Nancy Pelosi's nephew gets a multimillion loan guarantee and worthless Solyndra gets tax credits and government loan guarantees.
None of that squares with the "liberalism" of my earlier days. What "liberalism" stands for now is abortion, homosexual marriage, middle class welfare and "pay to play". Nothing else.