[quote="april32010, post:10, topic:337213"]
why is there a vote on something that is none of our business. as i understand it this is the purview of the Ordinary or Superior :shrug: :rolleyes:
[quote="shawnbm, post:11, topic:337213"]
Quite true, but the laity and clergy not only have a right, but a duty, to bring to the ordinary or superior issues of importance for the Church, no? I do believe I have read that in the CCC. The issue of how many seminarians, deacons and priests are walking through our societies and standing out as Catholic clergy is important on many levels, IMHO.
One thing that entered into previous discussion was what constitutes a cleric now. For the longest time, within the first few months of seminary, a man was tonsured. At the moment he was tonsured, he was considered a cleric, and was to dress as one.
Paul VI suppressed the tonsure during his papacy, and since then men do not become clerics until they are ordained deacons, even though most seminaries today require seminarians to wear clerics.
Just to provide something for more discussion.