Pope denounces use of religion as tool of violence

From Church Resources:

Greeting a delegation of Muslim, Orthodox and Jewish religious representatives from Azerbaijan, Pope John Paul II has insisted that no one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance or violence.

The delegation was in Rome to return the Holy Father’s visit in 2002 to their Caucasus country, which has only about 300 Catholics.

“No one has the right to present or use religions as instrument of intolerance, as a means of aggression, violence or death,” he stressed in his address, which he delivered in Russian.

“On the contrary, their reciprocal friendship and esteem, if supported also by the government leaders’ commitment to tolerance, constitutes a rich resource of authentic progress and peace,” the Pope said.

“Together - Muslims, Jews, Christians - we wish to address in the name of God and of civilization an appeal to humanity to halt murderous violence and undertake the path of love and justice for all,” the Holy Father continued.

He highlighted the fact that “this is the path of religions” and expressed the hope “that God will help us to go forward on this path with perseverance and patience.”

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Can you show me positive proof that your Church has changed its doctrines which say it has the divine right to use the sword against those it considers heretics?

Well, Myhrr. looks like you’re a “heretic” if not an atheist. so why are you still out of trouble?

“Pope John Paul II has insisted that no one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance or violence.”

I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

Pope John Paul II comes from a long line of Popes, centuries and centuries and centuries of Popes, that has used its religion as an instrument of intolerance and violence whenever it had the opportunity to do so.

In 1066 it came in with the Normans to England and slaughtered the Christians who wouldn’t submit to Rome, putting its own bishops in place. In Lithuania it converted the pagan country by the sword. In all its campaigns supposedly against the muslims it slaughtered the Jews and Orthodox Christians too taking over another Patriarchate for eighty years, Jerusalem. Has all this suddenly come to a stop with John Paul II?

Your dear Pope is still attacking the Orthodox in Jerusalem, still spreading lies about us to your faithful. Still honouring and making saints out of those who slaughtered and forcibly converted us to submission to your Pope, not to Christianity.

As head of an organisation which claims it has the divine right to slaughter any who don’t submit to its rule as defined by its infallible doctrines who is he to lecture “that no one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance or violence”?

“Well, Myhrr. looks like you’re a “heretic” if not an atheist. so why are you still out of trouble?”

Well, abcdefg, why do you think I am?

Why was Pope John Paul II there?

[quote=Myhrr]“Pope John Paul II has insisted that no one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance or violence.”

Your dear Pope is still attacking the Orthodox in Jerusalem, still spreading lies about us to your faithful. Still honouring and making saints out of those who slaughtered and forcibly converted us to submission to your Pope, not to Christianity.

As head of an organisation which claims it has the divine right to slaughter any who don’t submit to its rule as defined by its infallible doctrines who is he to lecture "that no one has the right to use religion as an instrument of intolerance or violence
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As a Catholic I am outraged by your accusations. I have never heard the Pope make any disparaging remarks about any other religion much less spread lies about them. Where do you get the idea that the Catholic Church “has the divine right to slaughter anyone or that it claims it has”. Leave that to the Muslims, they’re the ones who think that’s their privilege!

The Pope is trying to advance the cause of peace. What is the Orthodox Church doing about that? Nothing that I know of!

[quote=Myhrr]forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=314993&postcount=64

Can you show me positive proof that your Church has changed its doctrines which say it has the divine right to use the sword against those it considers heretics?
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Sure, if you consider “the sword” to be the truth, which the Church is the pillar and foundation of. Look up 1 Timothy 3:15.

[quote=Booklover]The Pope is trying to advance the cause of peace.
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I loved this quote from him:

All the beauty I see, he has given to me…

“We must break down the walls of division, hostility and hatred so that the family of God can gather in harmony around one table to bless and praise the Creator for the many gifts with which He enriches our lives, with no distinctions.”

Pope John Paul II

Myrrh, can we get OVER the Crusades already? I mean it was in the first century and never repeated. I get so tired of people bringing up the Crusades as if it happened last week and totally ignoring the series of tortures and beheadings resulting from practiciing the “religion of Peace” The Pope has been a beacon of light in
understanding between peoples, countries and religions. May he have many more days upon this earth.

Lisa N

[quote=Lisa N]Myrrh, can we get OVER the Crusades already? I mean it was in the first century and never repeated. I get so tired of people bringing up the Crusades as if it happened last week and totally ignoring the series of tortures and beheadings resulting from practiciing the “religion of Peace” The Pope has been a beacon of light in
understanding between peoples, countries and religions. May he have many more days upon this earth.

Lisa N
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Obviously not and it’s a thread killer. I havve vastly cut back my time and postings in this section as it seems ordinary discussions are no longer possible.

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