Pope Francis to activists: Stand with migrants, do not deny climate science, there is no such thing as ‘Islamic terrorism’


#1

Francis also repeated his warning against describing terrorism as Islamic, another major theme of Mr. Trump’s campaign.

“Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist” Francis wrote.

americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/02/17/pope-francis-activists-stand-migrants-do-not-deny-climate-science-there

Amen!


#2

We do not know the full content of the Holy Father’s letter except for the review.

On the surface, there is nothing new to it – i***n resisting the temptation to demonize others, protect the earth and fight against “the invisible tyranny of money that only guarantees the privileges of a few.”***

“The wounds are there, they are a reality. The unemployment is real, the violence is real, the corruption is real, the identity crisis is real, the gutting of democracies is real.”

About ***“Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist,” ***

He is right. It is not Islamic terrorism, not all Muslims are terrorists. It is radical Islamic terrorism. The fake media likes selective reporting and sometimes by deliberate omission.

Mr. Trump repeatedly criticized his predecessor for refusing to label acts of terror committed by Muslims “radical Islamic terrorism,” a phrase he has used often since his election.


#3

Unfortunately, the types of interpretations from the Western left just feed the excuse-making that is collapsing the West from the inside-out.

They want us talking about “climate change” while they run the table against the nuclear family. And in the end we are supposed to :shrug:

Many of Pope Francis’s statements may shock the left.


#4

Selective reporting, and half truths. And the left just runs with it.


#5

Those who try to politicize the Church, as does the author of this agit-prop, are among the Church’s worst enemies.


#6

So direct quotes from the letter in question written by the Pope in Spanish and translated in English::

“The invisible tyranny of money that only guarantees the privileges of a few.”

“The grave danger is to disown our neighbours. When we do so, we deny their humanity and our own humanity without realizing it; we deny ourselves, and we deny the most important Commandments of Jesus,”

“I know that you have committed yourselves to fight for social justice, to defend our Sister Mother Earth and to stand alongside migrants. I want to reaffirm your choice,”

“Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist. There are fundamentalist and violent individuals in all peoples and religions—and with intolerant generalizations they become stronger because they feed on hate and xenophobia,”

The ecological crisis is real, we also know what happens when we deny science and disregard the voice of Nature.”


#7

So why is not the church telling the laypeople who the enemy is and instructing them on how to fight this threat?

Its almost like the church is a bit scared to even identify an entity as an enemy of the church in modern times.


#8

:thumbsup:

If you think about it, none of these great religions condone terrorism. There are just some bad people who claim to be doing God’s will, but they are not.


#9

Why would anyone want to kill out any family, nuclear or extended, through environmental harms?

Like those terrorists, it is not condoned by their religions.


#10

Like that Mohammed fellow.

Um, I mean… Look! Global warming!


#11

Yup. Thank you Papa Francisco.

Terrorists who would attack Sufis…SUFIS for heaven’s sakes. The hippies of Islam. None are more peaceful and loving. These terrorist are enemies of humanity and make a terrible mockery of their ancestral faith.

theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/16/thirty-killed-100-injured-isis-bomb-sufi-shrine-pakistan-sindh


#12

The Holy Father said, “I know that you have committed yourselves to fight for social justice…”

Did you know that there are 725 No Go Zones in France, Muslim zones the Police are afraid to enter? The only ones who can be there are Muslims. Sound fair to the rest of the population? Sounds to me like a country is being take over … breaking the back of social justice.

This is because they had easy friendly immigration into their country. And now the Muslims are free to go to other EO countries and start other No Go zones.

There is more than meets the eye in regard to the Muslim immigration. Of course the objection to my little observation is that there are so many Muslims who are nice people and are not, right now, doing any of these nasty things. But upon examining this further there are reasons when they will follow this nasty Muslims someday, and as well, may be faking this posture. There is such a thing as being a sick Christian by being too naïve about what is really going on and doing harm to others. 749 No Go zones. Do you think you would like a few of these in your neighborhood? It only takes a little time, and then the facts speak for themselves … when it may be too late.


#13

Full text of His Holiness Pope Francis’ remarks available here:

news.va/en/news/pope-sends-message-to-popular-movements-meeting-in

Part I

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

        First of all, I would like to congratulate you for your effort in replicating on a national level the work being developed in the World Meetings of Popular Movements. By way of this letter, I want to encourage and strengthen each one of you, your organizations, and all who strive with you for “Land, Work and Housing,” the three T’s in Spanish: Tierra, Trabajo y Techo. I congratulate you for all that you are doing.
        I would like to thank the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, its chairman Bishop David Talley, and the host Bishops Stephen Blaire, Armando Ochoa and Jaime Soto, for the wholehearted support they have offered to this meeting. Thank you, Cardinal Peter Turkson, for your continued support of popular movements from the new Dicastery for the Promotion of Integral Human Development. It makes me very happy to see you working together towards social justice! How I wish that such constructive energy would spread to all dioceses, because it builds bridges between peoples and individuals. These are bridges that can overcome the walls of exclusion, indifference, racism, and intolerance. 
        I would also like to highlight the work done by the PICO National Network and the organizations promoting this meeting. I learned that PICO stands for “People Improving Communities through Organizing”. What a great synthesis of the mission of popular movements: to work locally, side by side with your neighbors, organizing among yourselves, to make your communities thrive. 
        A few months ago in Rome, we talked at the third World Meeting of Popular Movements about walls and fear, about bridges and love.  Without wanting to repeat myself, these issues do challenge our deepest values.
        We know that none of these ills began yesterday. For some time, the crisis of the prevailing paradigm has confronted us. I am speaking of a system that causes enormous suffering to the human family, simultaneously assaulting people’s dignity and our Common Home in order to sustain the invisible tyranny of money that only guarantees the privileges of a few. “In our time humanity is experiencing a turning-point in its history.”  
        As Christians and all people of good will, it is for us to live and act at this moment. It is “a grave responsibility, since certain present realities, unless effectively dealt with, are capable of setting off processes of dehumanization which would then be hard to reverse.”  These are signs of the times that we need to recognize in order to act. We have lost valuable time: time when we did not pay enough attention to these processes, time when we did not resolve these destructive realities. Thus the processes of dehumanization accelerate. The direction taken beyond this historic turning-point—the ways in which this worsening crisis gets resolved—will depend on people’s involvement and participation and, largely, on yourselves, the popular movements. 
        We should be neither paralyzed by fear nor shackled within the conflict. We have to acknowledge the danger but also the opportunity that every crisis brings in order to advance to a successful synthesis. In the Chinese language, which expresses the ancestral wisdom of that great people, the word “crisis” is comprised of two ideograms: Wēi, which represents “danger”, and Jī, which represents “opportunity”.
        The grave danger is to disown our neighbors. When we do so, we deny their humanity and our own humanity without realizing it; we deny ourselves, and we deny the most important Commandments of Jesus. Herein lies the danger, the dehumanization. But here we also find an opportunity: that the light of the love of neighbor may illuminate the Earth with its stunning brightness like a lightning bolt in the dark; that it may wake us up and let true humanity burst through with authentic resistance, resilience and persistence.
        The question that the lawyer asked Jesus in the Gospel of Luke (10:25-37) echoes in our ears today: “Who is my neighbor?” Who is that other whom we are to love as we love ourselves? Maybe the questioner expects a comfortable response in order to carry on with his life: “My relatives? My compatriots? My co-religionists? ...” Maybe he wants Jesus to excuse us from the obligation of loving pagans or foreigners who at that time were considered unclean. This man wants a clear rule that allows him to classify others as “neighbor” and “non-neighbor”, as those who can become neighbors and those who cannot become neighbors.

#14

**Part II of His Holiness Pope Francis’ remarks:
**

Jesus responds with a parable which features two figures belonging to the elite of the day and a third figure, considered a foreigner, a pagan and unclean: the Samaritan. On the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, the priest and the Levite come upon a dying man, whom robbers have attacked, stripped and abandoned. In such situations the Law of the Lord imposes the duty to offer assistance, but both pass by without stopping. They were in a hurry. However, unlike these elite figures, the Samaritan stopped. Why him? As a Samaritan he was looked down upon, no one would have counted on him, and in any case he would have had his own commitments and things to do—yet when he saw the injured man, he did not pass by like the other two who were linked to the Temple, but “he saw him and had compassion on him” (v. 33). The Samaritan acts with true mercy: he binds up the man’s wounds, transports him to an inn, personally takes care of him, and provides for his upkeep. All this teaches us that compassion, love, is not a vague sentiment, but rather means taking care of the other to the point of personally paying for him. It means committing oneself to take all the necessary steps so as to “draw near to” the other to the point of identifying with him: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” This is the Lord’s Commandment.

The economic system that has the god of money at its center, and that sometimes acts with the brutality of the robbers in the parable, inflicts injuries that to a criminal degree have remained neglected. Globalized society frequently looks the other way with the pretence of innocence. Under the guise of what is politically correct or ideologically fashionable, one looks at those who suffer without touching them. But they are televised live; they are talked about in euphemisms and with apparent tolerance, but nothing is done systematically to heal the social wounds or to confront the structures that leave so many brothers and sisters by the wayside. This hypocritical attitude, so different from that of the Samaritan, manifests an absence of true commitment to humanity.

        Sooner or later, the moral blindness of this indifference comes to light, like when a mirage dissipates. The wounds are there, they are a reality. The unemployment is real, the violence is real, the corruption is real, the identity crisis is real, the gutting of democracies is real. The system’s gangrene cannot be whitewashed forever because sooner or later the stench becomes too strong; and when it can no longer be denied, the same power that spawned this state of affairs sets about manipulating fear, insecurity, quarrels, and even people’s justified indignation, in order to shift the responsibility for all these ills onto a “non-neighbor”. I am not speaking of anyone in particular, I am speaking of a social and political process that flourishes in many parts of the world and poses a grave danger for humanity.
        Jesus teaches us a different path. Do not classify others in order to see who is a neighbor and who is not. You can become neighbor to whomever you meet in need, and you will do so if you have compassion in your heart. That is to say, if you have that capacity to suffer with someone else. You must become a Samaritan. And then also become like the innkeeper at the end of the parable to whom the Samaritan entrusts the person who is suffering. Who is this innkeeper? It is the Church, the Christian community, people of compassion and solidarity, social organizations. It is us, it is you, to whom the Lord Jesus daily entrusts those who are afflicted in body and spirit, so that we can continue pouring out all of his immeasurable mercy and salvation upon them. Here are the roots of the authentic humanity that resists the dehumanization that wears the livery of indifference, hypocrisy, or intolerance.
        I know that you have committed yourselves to fight for social justice, to defend our Sister Mother Earth and to stand alongside migrants. I want to reaffirm your choice and share two reflections in this regard.

news.va/en/news/pope-sends-message-to-popular-movements-meeting-in


#15

Part III of His Holiness Pope Francis’ remarks:

First, the ecological crisis is real. “A very solid scientific consensus indicates that we are presently witnessing a disturbing warming of the climatic system.” Science is not the only form of knowledge, it is true. It is also true that science is not necessarily “neutral”—many times it conceals ideological views or economic interests. However, we also know what happens when we deny science and disregard the voice of Nature. I make my own everything that concerns us as Catholics. Let us not fall into denial. Time is running out. Let us act. I ask you again—all of you, people of all backgrounds including native people, pastors, political leaders—to defend Creation.

        The other is a reflection that I shared at our most recent World Meeting of Popular Movements, and I feel is important to say it again: no people is criminal and no religion is terrorist. Christian terrorism does not exist, Jewish terrorism does not exist, and Muslim terrorism does not exist. They do not exist. No people is criminal or drug-trafficking or violent. “The poor and the poorer peoples are accused of violence yet, without equal opportunities, the different forms of aggression and conflict will find a fertile terrain for growth and will eventually explode.”  There are fundamentalist and violent individuals in all peoples and religions—and with intolerant generalizations they become stronger because they feed on hate and xenophobia. By confronting terror with love, we work for peace. 
        I ask you for meekness and resolve to defend these principles. I ask you not to barter them lightly or apply them superficially. Like Saint Francis of Assisi, let us give everything of ourselves: where there is hatred, let us sow love; where there is injury, let us sow pardon; where there is discord, let us sow unity; where there is error, let us sow truth.  
        Please know that I pray for you, that I pray with you, and I ask God our Father to accompany and bless you. May He shower you with his love and protect you. I ask you to please pray for me too, and to carry on.

news.va/en/news/pope-sends-message-to-popular-movements-meeting-in


#16

America has some good articles, but leans a bit left. I don’t deny climate change, I do stand with migrants, but I am sorry, there is is Islamic terrorism. Pope Francis has condemned it before. I have noticed that much of the time when you see stuff like this floating around, it’s because 1) a bad translation, or 2) the words are taking out of context or 3) He never said them to begin with (like him saying pets were in heaven, for instance):shrug:


#17

No Sorry, I do not agree with his statement that there is no Islamic Terrorism. I say there is and the Islamic terrorists prove it to us every day.

Sorry Pope Francis but you are wrong again!


#18

Sounds just like my uncle! Whoa. Synchronicity. Spooky. I have an old photo somewhere of my uncle posing in a shawl on a rock on the beach with a staff - beard, long hair. I think they used it as a Christmas card. He looked just like Jesus Christ - was really amazing. If I find it I will try to post it. Quite a few years ago now…


#19

Do you have a reliable source on this? Because I consider myself pretty well-informed and was shocked at that number and decided to do some digging.

According to Wikipedia:

*"France[edit]
An early usage of the term regarding Europe was in a 2002 opinion piece by David Ignatius in The New York Times, where he wrote about France, “Arab gangs regularly vandalize synagogues here, the North African suburbs have become no-go zones at night, and the French continue to shrug their shoulders.”[21] La Courneuve and other districts in Paris were described by police as no-go zones.[22]

In 2010, Raphaël Stainville of French newspaper Le Figaro called certain neighborhoods of the southern city Perpignan “veritable lawless zones”, saying they had become too dangerous to travel in at night. He added that the same was true in parts of Béziers and Nîmes.[23] In 2012, Gilles Demailly (fr), the mayor of the French city Amiens, in the wake of several riots, called the northern part of his city a lawless zone, where one could no longer order a pizza or call for a doctor.[24] In 2014, French academic and Syria expert Fabrice Balanche labelled the northern city of Roubaix, as well as parts of Marseille, “mini-Islamic states”, saying that the authority of the state is completely absent there.[25] American magazines Newsweek[26] and The New Republic[27] have also used the term to describe parts of France.

In January 2015, after the Charlie Hebdo shooting in Paris, various American media, including the news cable channels Fox News and CNN, described the existence of no-go zones across Europe and in France in particular, or featured guests that referred to them. In some cases, the French areas termed “sensitive urban zones”[28] were described as no-go zones.[29][30] Both networks were criticized for these statements,[31] and anchors on both networks later apologized for the characterizations.[32][33][34][35] The mayor of Paris, Anne Hidalgo, said that she intended to sue Fox News for its statements.[36]"*

So it seems that no only is this a right-wing lie propagated by Fox, but it is also a statement that at one point was at risk of litigation. At least to me. Please enlighten.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area#France


#20

My childhood friend, a devout Catholic, would disagree with the Pope.

He was abducted by jihadists.

I would also disagree. I grew up in a place where a bomb would go off in a public place and either the Communists or the local jihadist group would claim responsibility. So yes, terrorism does exist.

Doubt it?

Count yourself lucky. A lot of people have been victimized by terrorists. For them and for me it is true.


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