Prayer during Communion


#21

I’m happy to say that my parish is part of the Pittsburgh Archeparchy and our pastor uses “handmaiden”. :slight_smile:


#22

I’ve never experienced that either.


#23

Are women not servants of God?
In Church Slavonic language:


#24

If the Theotokos is referred to as handmaid of the Lord, it’s certainly good enough for me (even though I am far from worthy).


#25

I can figure out "Prichashchayetsya rab Bozhii
(N.) …tila i krove Hospoda i Boha i Spasa Isusa Christa vo ostavleniye hrikov i…zhizi vichnoyu
but can’t make out the rest of it. I’ll have to look it up in my Leiturgikon.


#26

Yes, it’s just shorthand for the priest.

The best formulation includes your name; _______ (servant or handmaid) of the Lord receives …


#27

The the rubirc, instructs the priest to say the words that follow to the comminicant.
The communicant is called as “rab Bozhii” - servant of God - and by name.


#28

But that’s not the issue. Yes, they are indeed servants of God. That doesn’t, as @deniseNY points out, mean they should stripped of that special recognition using the words of the Theotokos herself . . .


#29

The word is in the Slavonic is “servant”. That word is used in for men, women, and mixed company in our services. Also in the Magnificat for the Theotokos.
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Can you tell me when and where “handmaiden” cropped up?


#30

Mary’s response to the angel telling her about her appointed role.


#31

Sure: in the KJV. But what is the koine or slavonic.
In the liturgy it is servant in the Slavonic.


#32

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#33

which Slavonic. liturgy.

In the US formerly Ruthenian, the English usage at communion was universally “handmaiden” until recently.

And it’s not just the KJV; it’s quite common in catholic English translations of the Bible.

Also, the translation is into English; it should not latch onto the specifics of the Slavonic language.


#34

I choose not to get offended by such a minor detail just before I receive Holy Communion. Just doesn’t seem wise. :thinking:( I am likewise not offended by the concept of Christ loving mankind and actively miss hearing it in the liturgy, even though it has been more than a decade since the new translation came out. I know that it includes me.)


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